Mitt Romney on the Terri Schiavo case.
"I generally think that it’s not a good idea for courts to legislate. Nor is it great idea for legislatures to adjudicate in a specific circumstance."
This is quite a dumb statement. This was no case of the legislature adjudicating since what they were doing was allowing the case to be judged at a higher level. This was providing access to the courts and adjudicating, not legislating what the outcome was to be. This was a case of the legislature legislating. Another silly part of the statement is that he "generally" thinks that it is not a good idea for the court to legislate. How about it is never a good idea for the court to legislate. Mitt Romney should have a little better understanding of the Schiavo case considering that his state tried to kill 11 year old PVS diagnosed Haleigh Poutre who is now talking.
But remember the meme that Romney has had a conversion to the pro-life cause. Yes life is precious, but don’t let the government get involved to help to save a life.
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Multiple Choice Mitt
Yeah, but as noted by the judges in the Schiavos case, she had, repeatedly, expressed to her husband, best friend, and some others, her explicit desire not to have extraordinary measures, as she defined them, taken to extend her life.
Hoodlum doesn’t believe in God, but he believes Michael Schiavo when he says that it was Terri’s wish to have no extraordinary measures performed.
Irony.
Food and water aren’t ‘extraordinary measures’.
Terri was starved and dehydrated to
death. Michael received a huge medical
malpractice settlement, which he swore
under oath he would use for her
rehabilitation. Instead, he suddenly
‘remembered’ she wanted to be euthanized.
Please go to terrisfight.org to learn
the truth.
+JMJ+
And Hoodlum, her parents WANTED to take care of her and were PREVENTED from doing so. It is better to die than to let those you love care for you?? Come on, follow the $$$$$.
Great catch!
Now Romney is telling us that the State has no compelling interest in the lives of its citizens?
Heather, I’m going to trust the unbiased, under oath evidence provided at the various trials and appeals rather than some astroturfing site set up by the parents.
Yeah Paul, because as the appeal decisions noted, not only did Michael Schiavo say that Terri had explicitedly stated such, but so did her best friend and others.
I remember back when Terri was still alive, I went to terrisfight.org and was struck by how they omitted the court decisions? Gee, why would they do that unless they documented the fact that Michael Schiavo was a loving, caring husband who was doing his best to fulfill his wife’s wishes. Shockingly enough, Court after court, on appeal after appeal had little less but praise for Michael Schiavo.
Heather, during the medical malpractice case, Terri’s parents said she was PVS with no hope of recovery, yet at the end, they claimed that was wrong. So they too have been less than honest.
Liz, but Terri was an adult, thus allowed to make her own decisions regardless of how her parents felt.
+JMJ+
….hello? She didn’t make the decision, her husband did–on HIS word — a guy who loved her so much he was living with someone else–and gee, you don’t suppose there is the LEAST bias in the court system?? Naaah . . . couldn’t be. Don’t ridicule us for our faith when yours is based on shifting sand.
Lizbette, the courts made the decision after hearing all the evidence. The courts founded, repeated, time and again, that Terri Schiavo, being a typical CINO, did not want to remain a vegetable. As for bias in the courts, until you can demonstrate such in this case, and show it that influenced the out of the case, any claims of as such should be assumed to be bogus.
Hoodlum,
Do yourself a favor and go to this link and read:
The (Surprising) Truth about Schiavo: A Defeat for the Cause of Autonomy
The above is a paper published by Prof. O.C. Snead. He teaches law and was extensively involved in the Schiavo case.
What you don’t know CAN hurt you. Get informed.
God Bless,
RyanL
I think Mitt needs to go home and take a nap everyday after his mother cooks him lunch. Maybe he’ll have a conversion experience (not that yours truely isn’t in need of constant conversion) but I think this reversion to the habits of childhood might help him. Get him off the campaign trail
Hoodlum, only three people said that Terri would want to die: Michael Schiavo, his brother, and his sister-in-law. Just as many people said she would want to live.
Pro-life comments Terri made to her mother and to a friend, Diane Meyer, in 1981 about Karen Ann Quinlan were disregarded by the judge based on the false belief that since Quinlan died in 1975, Terri could not have talked about hope for her in 1981. Actually, Quinlan died in 1985. The incorrect date was supplied to the judge by Michael Schiavo’s lawyer. Despite having the facts wrong, the judge refused to revisit the facts.
You may not be aware that appellate courts look primarily at legal reasoning, not at the underlying facts. Even after Congress took the extraordinary step of ordering a de novo look at the facts, the judge still refused to do that, referring instead to his previous, flawed findings.
Not only was the testimony of Terri’s mother and friend disregarded when it should not have been, but there was reason to doubt Michael Schiavo’s testimony. At least two of his acquaintances, Cindy Shook and Trudy Capone, say that Michael Schiavo did not know what Terri’s wishes were. There is also this quote from a 2003 Larry King interview: “Nobody talks about death, Larry.” In that same interview, Mr. Schiavo refused to say whether he would be willing to take a lie detector test.
I have voted Republican in six out of the last seven presidential elections. It will be six out of the last eight, if Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee in 2008.
I wouldn’t pay any attention to Hoodlum. He’s setting out today to prove that he knows as little about the legal system and African modern history as he does about medieval history and the current requirements for U.S. educators.
Seriously, Hoodlum, that lesbian ex-Israeli soldier that you raved about was just the tip of the iceberg. If you make an effort, there are a lot of interesting people out there for you to make friends with. Trolling a Catholic website to make enemies is a waste of energy for a true atheist and will just make you angry and unhappy when you realize how much of your time you’ve wasted.
Missjean, disagreeing with me on which school of historiography is correct when it comes to a historical topic. Shocking as this maybe, your views on medieval history is just one theory of thought on the topic. A great number of historians, sociologists, and so forth still agree with the traditional view of the middle ages. They are much like curt jester, who mocks those who want the church to update itself by allowing priest to marry, women priest, and liturgical dancers.
See, history, much like theology has no correct answers in the grand scheme of things. See, just as there is no correct interpretation of the bible stored in the National Archives, the Vatican, or Ft. Knox, you won’t find a correct history hidden there either. All historical writings are compared to other historical writings to determine correctness.
Try updating your historiography 🙂
Hoodlum,
If there are no right answers in theology, then why are you arguing about it? If no answer is right, then no answer is wrong.
I have a feeling you think there are right answers, and that you have at least some of them.
Hoodlum, when you get DATES wrong and NAMES wrong, there is NO historian who will agree with you. Similarly, there are degrees of credibility within the studies of history and anthropology. For example, quote Starbird on ancient Middle Eastern history, and you’ve proven yourself a fool. Similarly, when you talk about becoming a teacher without even the basics of certification, you obviously have little if any knowledge of the educational system.
I am rather curious about why you are suddenly trolling more. Why is that?
I am not sure what dates and names I’ve gotten wrong.
As for my certification, naturally I am not going to discuss things like Maryland’s stiff requirements for the Praxis, Intasc standards, or the courses I am required to take to get that certification on blogs that are completely unrelated to them. It’s just rude.
It’s rude to discuss state requirements but it’s NOT rude to suggest that Catholic educators don’t meet state requirements (and federal requirements, for that matter)on this blog?
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