Heretical bellyacher

There has to be some purpose for parasites like Frances Kissling, et al. Maybe to keep us from becoming complacent in an ever more spiritually dangerous world. Or to assist us to poke holes in the whole connection between so-called “safe or safer sex” and condoms are the answer, when in fact they are a fool’s paradise for risk.

Ms. Kissling has to seem as if she is still Catholic as her organization(s) are heavily funded by major foundations, most of which also, ironically, also fund anti-Israel activities by left-wing “Christian” groups e.g., the WCC. She has satellites all over the place, collecting from a number of major foundations, Ford in the lead. So appearing to be a Catholic in spite of her heresies and betrayals of the Church lends her a phoney authenticity.

“They also never explain why somebody who is married and monogamous needs to be protected from STDs in the first place.”

EXACTLY!!! This is what I am always telling my non-practicing Catholic family members. Why do you need the Pope to support condoms? He doesn’t even support extra-marital sex!

Also, hate the way they call it “protection”. My wife’s gynocologist once asked if we were using protection. She said, “No, the shoulder pads and helmet really get in the way and kill the mood.” He was not even slightly amused…

But seriously, what does she need to be “protected” from? Babies are not parasites. I am not a rapist.

We have since found an NFP-only OB/GYN here in north Texas, praise God!

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It’s a shame Frances Kissling’s parent’s didn’t take her advice and use a condom. We wouldn’t be reading and listening to such drivel. Kissling is just an Episcopalian who uses the name of Catholic for effect….pin head. OOps, I mean we all must pray for her. I don’t know about you all but I’m getting tired of listening to these so called Catholics who have the information in front of them and they still choose to ignore the facts and listen to the lies of the world, and then pass off this crap as truth under the title Catholis.

Gee whiz Kathy…..duh, ya think? I just found the thought rather interesting. I’m sure Frances Kissling wouldn’t find it interesting or even remotely funny. It wasn’t meant to be.

As do most of her points of interest. That concerns me more.

A good response to the obgyn, Andrew. Too bad he didn’t have a sense of humor (or any sense).

Frances Kissling is a brave campaigner, aware of the problems of women as most of you are not.

A quote: “That [Roman Catholic] agenda has had at its center the most absolute and extreme position taken by any religious group. Even Islam, which rivals Catholicism in conservatism on women�s rights and sexuality, permits abortion for a wide range of reasons during the first trimester of pregnancy. Most Protestant denominations and most branches of Judaism, although considering abortion to be a grave moral matter, hold that not only should abortion be legal, but that it is a decision that must be reserved to the conscience of the pregnant woman. So strongly held is this respect for conscience that, when abortion was illegal, Protestant clergy and Jewish rabbis willingly broke the law by participating in an extensive network called the Clergy Consultation Service, which both counseled women with unintended pregnancies and referred them to sympathetic physicians who would perform abortions. Since the 1973 Supreme Court decision, religious groups favoring legal abortion have worked through the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights to make their support for reproductive choice visible. In spite of this, the Roman Catholic church and fundamentalist Protestants have dominated public policy discourse and garnered the lion�s share of media attention focused on religion in the seemingly intractable abortion war.”

That’s what makes me who I am and not some drone. I see them as I call them. And no. I’m not in the same pond as Kissling. She chooses to drown in an area I choose to keep a distance with. I can only offer my prayers, and at times my concern. You say inconsistency of ethics? I fail to see where you can make that comment. After a lengthy conversation with my parish priest we had many commets about who, why, and how concerning Kissling. No where did he insist I was inconsistent in my ethics. We had a dialog that looked at many aspects. I see you don’t know how to do that..

SpiritII, I just know you’re not a woman. We’ve got a culture that sexualizes us at increasingly young ages, encourages promiscuity, and then acts as if babies or diseases are the only awful consequences of premarital sex (and our CHOICE somehow). Condoms are just part of the culture that treats women as commodities and children as liabilities. And fathers as having no rights to their children when they’re still in utero.

But it doesn’t end there. We’re treated as second-class citizens when it comes to health.

Did you know that the Pill increases the likelihood of a stroke, even in otherwise healthy young women? Have you ever taken a twenty-year-old friend to rehabilitation after she’s had a Pill-related stroke? It ain’t pretty. And I won’t even get into abortion, the only “medical procedure” in which the providers WITHHOLD information about risks and don’t use ultrasounds so you can make an informed choice.

And condoms aren’t totally effective, as any sex ed teacher would tell you. Did you know that most sexually-transmitted diseases affect a woman’s body much more profoundly than a man’s? And not just AIDS – genital warts, chlamydia, etc. Condom use does NOT mean that women are safe from contracting these diseases.

The biggest problem women face is that we USED to have culture that emphasized sex within marriage. Now 10-year-old girls are using “waterdams” so they don’t have to swallow semen at oral sex parties in middle school.

Oh, yeah, but we’ve got a CHOICE to murder our children and pretend it’s okay.

By the way, that IS the point of the “abortion war”, SpiritII. Lots of Protestant ministers used to agree that slaves weren’t fully human, too. And a certain Mr. Adams wasn’t allowed to bring it up in the Senate because people were tired of hearing him. Someday historians will look back and say, “It’s hard to believe that people actually tried to justify murder by saying that abortion was just a personal choice.”

Planned Parenthood calls in the gay contingent to help them counter the antiabortion protestors. There is a strong correlation between abortion minded people and the gay community. In fact there are people who believe their abortion caused them to become gay. Think about it-there is a connection.