Mark Shea on the excuse making for the murderous Muslim officer.
…And it means we are absolute idiots to go on ignoring the fact that a) Islam has plenty of room in its body of doctrine for this sort of brutal violence; b) Islam has plenty of people who approve of this kind of violence and are in various stages of readiness to commit it; and c) Radical Islamic ideologues often emit glaring warning signals. We are even greater fools to tiptoe around those Muslims whose first reaction to such crimes is to blame everybody else but their tradition and to demand victimhood for themselves.
We want very much to believe that Violent Islam is a perversion of the Islamic tradition and Wise and Benevolent Islam is the Real Islamic tradition. But the reality is that Islam is an invented human religion that borrows from fragments of Judaism and Christianity, mixes in Mohammed’s own delusional (or lying) claims of revelation, and completes it with a dash of conventional wisdom from seventh-century Arab culture. It is not a magisterial faith with some adjudicating body that defines what is and is not the orthodox reading of the Koran. It is whatever its various adherents say it is.
That means that if you are looking for a sanction for violence in the Koran, you can find it, because it’s there. So is the wisdom, almsgiving, and peace stuff, if you want that. So Muslims who commit these heinous acts with such frequency are not “betraying Islam” when doing so out of self-described piety. They are, in fact, implementing one possible interpretation of the Muslim tradition (and often slaughtering a great many other Muslims in the process). Westerners who lie to themselves that these monsters are “not real Muslims” are simply self-deluded fools. They are as Muslim as Mohammed, as are their Muslim victims. There is no Islamic Magisterium to excommunicate them. They don’t speak for all Muslims, but they most certainly do speak and act for the disturbingly large percentage of Muslims who either applaud them, remain silent, or complain about being victims of suspicion and distrust by the victims of terror instead of complaining about the thugs who commit the terror in the name of Islam.
Quite well said along with the rest of his article. The media wants to call the violent Muslims as radical when really they are closer to their founder than the so-called moderates. People also talk a lot about Islam needing it’s own reformation. Yeah just what we need a return to early Islam where you marry children and invade cities around you as their “prophet” did. Mark also makes great points on the fact that as a human religion and one that was like a blender taking bits and pieces of other religions along with Mohammed’s own contribution people can just focus on the parts they like. This is no surprise since look at people have done with actual scripture. It is just with the Koran you don’t have to twist passages to justify violence – it is there in the text in in the “lived experience” of the first adherents to Islam.
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Catholics and Catholic clergy have recently participated in genocidal conflict in Croatia and Rwanda. The Church has a long history of participating in genocide for political purposes, in Ireland and Latin America. You, by writing this article inciting hatred against all the good Muslims of the World, suggesting that their religion is more made up, hateful and flawed than your own, expose yourself as a racist and religious hate monger, too cowardly to draw blood but eager to see it flow.
What a low, stinking toad you are.
reddog,
I can sympathize with your pain if you have been if you have been personally affected by these third world conflicts in Ireland and South America.
Fact is the church en masse since its inception denounces violence and genocide.
Jesus ordered, “Put your sword back into its sheath, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.”
I’m sure from your firsthand experience with the chaos in Croatia and Rwanda you know just how easily scared frightened people can unsensibly lash out.
Mr. Miller, the author of this blog, does believe that the Mohammedan is an ad hoc amalgam of beliefs. He also believes that Christianity is the religion of God revealing himself to man in the very person of Christ. He is not hateful in this regard. If he wishes to convert the Muslim he wishes them good in hopes not to remain ignorant. Similarly if you did not know politeness and were having difficulty composing yourself in everyday situations I assume Mr. Miller would be more than happy to assist in teaching you the basics of proper behavior.
Whatever faults you hold with Mr. Miller’s beliefs I trust we all can appeal to a common definition of religion itself.
“Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their affliction and to keep oneself unstained by the world.” James 1:27
I regret if you have been dealt any sin by the arm of a man who calls himself Christian. If it is any small comfort please know all such acts are completely contrary to the message of Jesus Christ and his body, the church.
I can’t take credit for this paraphrased quote but it seems applicable:
Islam is false religion and a threat to Western democracy, law and values. The fewer Muslims, the better, IMHO. Too bad France and the Netherlands are learning that lesson too late to save their societies.
This part about Church somehow beeing involved in the genocide in Croatia is only true if the author is reffering to the centuries long enslavement of Croatian catholics by the brutal Turkish muslim forces. Many a good Catholic was killed, beaheded and his body stuck to the pole for defending their faith.
All the best and greetings from Croatia!
This part about Church somehow beeing involved in the genocide in Croatia is only true if the author is reffering to the centuries long enslavement of Croatian catholics by the brutal Turkish muslim forces. Many a good Catholic was killed, beaheded and his body stuck to the pole for defending their faith.
All the best and greetings from Croatia!
Mormons oppose same-sex marriage in California and the liberal elites immediately condemn them. Muslims kill innocent Americans and the liberal elites fall all over themselves to find something else to blame besides Islam.
Mark Shea is right on in this article, as is Sawyer’s comment. Mark was not condemning good Muslims, he was clearly showing how the bad guys can easily justify their evils from their holy book.
Why the world is so quick to avoid condemnation of Islamic terrorism, calling it what it is, simply escapes me.
Ok, I have to say it. According to our government, (with the approval of ignorant tv viewers) pro-lifers and right-wing Christians (and political conservatives of every kind) are suspected terrorists, but a person who commits a terrorist ACT in the name of Allah is…probably a victim of traumatic stress? So, does that mean that from here on in, those who pray peacefully at abortion clinics, when they are called “Taliban” by passers-by, should take that as a show of public support? 🙂
Sometimes, it seems that the mind-bending that is prevalent today is not accidental. As if the ultimate goal is to label all good as evil, and all evil as good…Hmmm…makes you wonder.
Ok, I have to say it. According to our government, (with the approval of ignorant tv viewers) pro-lifers and right-wing Christians (and political conservatives of every kind) are suspected terrorists, but a person who commits a terrorist ACT in the name of Allah is…probably a victim of traumatic stress? So, does that mean that from here on in, those who pray peacefully at abortion clinics, when they are called “Taliban” by passers-by, should take that as a show of public support? 🙂
Sometimes, it seems that the mind-bending that is prevalent today is not accidental. As if the ultimate goal is to label all good as evil, and all evil as good…Hmmm…makes you wonder.
reddog makes a great compass doesn’t he? That is, the more venomous and agitated he becomes, the more you know you are striking close to the truth.
Hi Mp….
do you have a source where I can read more information on how Catholics were treated in Croatia under Turkish Muslim rule?
Thanks.