This must be certainly the first time the USCCB has issued a statement correcting a false assertion in a Vice Presidential debate.
WASHINGTON—The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) issued the following statement, October 12. Full text follows:
Last night, the following statement was made during the Vice Presidential debate regarding the decision of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to force virtually all employers to include sterilization and contraception, including drugs that may cause abortion, in the health insurance coverage they provide their employees:“With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact.”This is not a fact. The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain “religious employers.” That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to “Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital,” or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.
HHS has proposed an additional “accommodation” for religious organizations like these, which HHS itself describes as “non-exempt.” That proposal does not even potentially relieve these organizations from the obligation “to pay for contraception” and “to be a vehicle to get contraception.” They will have to serve as a vehicle, because they will still be forced to provide their employees with health coverage, and that coverage will still have to include sterilization, contraception, and abortifacients. They will have to pay for these things, because the premiums that the organizations (and their employees) are required to pay will still be applied, along with other funds, to cover the cost of these drugs and surgeries.
USCCB continues to urge HHS, in the strongest possible terms, actually to eliminate the various infringements on religious freedom imposed by the mandate.
For more details, please see USCCB’s regulatory comments filed on May 15 regarding the proposed “accommodation”: www.usccb.org/about/general-counsel/rulemaking/upload/comments-on-advance-notice-of-proposed-rulemaking-on-preventive-services-12-05-15.pdf
I tuned in to the debates late, but did catch when Vice President Biden said:
My religion defines who I am, and I’ve been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And has particularly informed my social doctrine. The Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who — who can’t take care of themselves, people who need help. With regard to — with regard to abortion, I accept my church’s position on abortion as a — what we call a de fide doctrine. Life begins at conception in the church’s judgment. I accept it in my personal life.
But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews, and I just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the — the congressman. I — I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that — women they can’t control their body. It’s a decision between them and their doctor. In my view and the Supreme Court, I’m not going to interfere with that.
First off I need some Listerine Mindwash to remove this statement. Now there is no surprise he would say something so morally incoherent; he is only following the bloody footsteps of those before him who used this morally vapid dodge. Even dumber he calls life beginning at conception as a “de fide doctrine” when it is no such thing. Though liberal often try to make something that is in the area of science as an area of theology so they can make it a matter of opinion. They do the same with issues involving the natural law so as to seem to restrict something to just one religious body.
I think the really sad thing besides his statement is that there are many that will swallow the argument about “imposing on others.” This argument is so shallow that even a laser measuring device won’t be able to measure any depth to it. The fact that he would use this excuse while at the same time the Obama administration is imposing directly on Catholics in many areas including the HHS Mandate makes this ironic in the extreme.
As for Rep Paul Ryan’s answer to the same question. I liked how he took it out of the area of theology to that of science and added a personal story to illustrate the humanity of the unborn. He then went on to say:
“The policy of a Romney administration will be to oppose abortions with the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.”
Now many will defend him saying this since it is not politically pragmatic to oppose this area of abortion. After all the Executive Branch is not the Legislative Branch and it will take an overturning of Roe V. Wade before any legal movement against abortion will occur. Plus even if it is overturned it will then become a matter for the states and not the Federal government. So practically there really will not be an opportunity to oppose abortion in these circumstances.
So I understand the practical arguments and I thank God the saints were not so pragmatically practical. This viewpoint would say that St. Thomas More should have just gone along and signed away his conscience since it wasn’t politically practical for him to oppose his friend King Henry VIII. Instead we get a statement that an intrinsically evil act will not be opposed even generally. This also continues to enforce that opposing abortion for these exceptions is extreme when it is extreme to murder someone for the sin of their father. In some ways Ryan’s statement parallels Biden’s in that Ryan is personally opposed to these exceptions, but won’t impose it on others.
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Jeff, there’s such a long way to go in order to get a little justice and save the unborn child but as a Canadian who was at the walk for life last Sunday in our city, I could see that most were happy that we were doing a little more to protect “LIFE”.
During the walk, for life this year, I’ve noticed more people cheering us on than the previous years. Although I must say that there was a sad incident of “ONE Man who seemed very UP SET and stuck his head out of a passenger car window saying stuff like, don’t you have anything better to do with your time. but over all, the comments were very possitive.
I know that some say in so many words that if we can’t help the ones that are already living then we should not get a chance to help the unborn and all I have to say for that is, “Two silly wrongs don’t make “ONE” Right” and leave “IT” at that for NOW.
Keep UP The Good Works and Words Jeff.
Peace
I guess Biden wasn’t aware that Muslims denied the Dutch abortion ship entrance into a Morrocan port!
The real disappointment was that the USCCB never identified which party made the false statement, thus neutering the reason for the protest in the first place.
It might be useful to note that Ryan provided two subtle clarifications. First, he referred to the policy of a Romney Administration and not a Romney-Ryan administration. In virtually every speech to which I’ve listened he has used the latter expression. Secondly, he managed to slip in the word “mother” in the clause referring to the Romney policy opposing abortion except in cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother. Ryan deftly shifted the language from woman to mother. Mothers, after all, have babies. Banned Parenthood would have us believe the issue merely involves a woman’s choice. Ryan, by identifying that a pregnant woman is in fact a mother, put a human face on the unborn.
So I guess we vote for the lesser of two evils?
Jeff,
Good post. In states that are heavily already known to be electoral college victories for one or the other, one’s vote is rhetorical only. My answer is simply to pray that God puts in the team who will do the least damage and I don’t now know which that is. Bad laws enable abortions but so do cutbacks in medicaid which pays for an astounding 40% of US births. Romney said he’d increase medicaid by inflation plus 1%….that’s a large cut if you do research on the medical and nursing home inflation which are double and more the normal inflation rate. I’d believe the thrift ideal only if the RR team were also thrifty about big military but they’re not and neither served in the military. I don’t like when non servers want to look tough vicariously
through others. It’s spooky. My answer in my state which is a forgone conclusion…pray that God picks the least harmful in His knowledge of all future contingencies.
So,Mitt & Ryan are for abortion after all is said and done. Alas.
(((tonymixan { 10.14.12 at 12:37 pm } So,Mitt & Ryan are for abortion after all is said and done. Alas.)))
Good “ONE” tony, mix an others won’t know who to pick butt then again “IT” might become a little clear her after Tuesday’s U>S (usual sinners) The Bate.
STOP ‘IT’ RIGHT THERE sinner vic cause I’m not an American and you have no right to treat our good loving cousins in that way so give “IT” UP ALREADY! WHY DON’T YOU?
VICTOR! I WISH YOU CANADIANS WOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! 🙂
NOT FUNNY! 🙁
Peace
Rallies against the HHS mandate will take place in more than 140 cities across the nation tomorrow, Saturday, October 20.
Rally locations:
http://standupforreligiousfreedom.com/locations/
Let’s make our voices heard!