Back in May I wrote a post titled “Don’t feed the trolls?” regarding principally Salvage the atheist commenter that haunts my blog. My commenting policy has always been rather liberal and mostly will continue to be. Though I have decided to finally ban Salvages comments. No doubt some will get through at times, but future comments will all be deleted.
In some ways Salvage amused me in that if anything he only confirmed me in my faith. Though it is a bad idea to let a single representative of a point of view stand for all even if they are somewhat representative of the so-called New Atheists. The banning is due to the following reasons.
- Almost zero engagement. Replies are pretty much always an exaggeration on the topic and make no effort to understand the countering-position. You can understand an opponents positions without embracing it.
- Multiple streams of comments clogging up my comment boxes. The spam like mentality is not an effort at a conversation, but just distraction.
- I don’t mind opposition to what I have to say or what the Church teaches. It is very good to learn countering-arguments and to come to a better understanding of the issues involved. I found instead that I pretty much stopped reading Salvage’s comments.
I see you’re deleting my posts / not letting me post anymore, that’s a win for me, if means that I finally presented a fact you simply could not handle, I guess the whole thing about the woman pro-creating herself to poverty and early death put it over the edge.
That’s the end game you’re trying to create with your so-called “pro-life” nonsense.
But you don’t care about that, you have a Heaven to get into.
You’re an idiot and a coward but hey, that’s theism!
Actually his comment only proved the point of what Archbishop Socrates Villegas said. The problem with poverty is not population. Poverty is nothing new and has been with us long before the present day. The poor have always been with us. But there is a vast difference between helping the poor and helping the poor to never exist in the first place. My wife is Filipino and I have seen first-hand the extreme poverty. But I have never looked on the face of the poor and thought – if only they didn’t exist. Maybe his reply was what broke the camels back in that this is a very serious subject for me and the Culture of Death attitude is not something I take likely and I just saw no positive fruits in future engagement.
So if Salvage considers he won – fine. Just not sure exactly what he won. But I am just another idiot and coward for theism -yeah.
Now I have been praying for Salvage daily and I will not be banning him from my prayer intentions. I hope the best for Salvage and his constant angry comments on my blog were not the best for him.
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Thank you for this post.
I apologize if engaging our brother salvage led to the clogging of your comments and a distraction from your posts, as Roberto pointed out a few days ago.
I will continue to hold up our brother salvage in prayer as you will. For the love we bear him, let us continue to entrust him to Our Blessed Mother and wish him nothing but happiness…
There’s no point in trying to engage invincible ignorance. It’s “invincible” for a reason. There are better informed and more charitable atheists out there to engage.
Fr. Philip Neri, OP
I’m ashamed to admit that it’s a relief to see the end of Salvage and his perpetual sniping and snipping. His questions were good ones, but he never allowed for any answers save his alone.
It’s nice to come here and not leave feeling depressed or angry.
I greatly admire the patience you displayed in this regard. I will continue to pray for salvage (he always used lower case) and people like him (some of whom are co-workers of mine). But I am glad we can go back to actually discussing things in a constructive and coherent way.
I hope a smarter, more knowledgeable and more honest atheist will engage us, so as to keep us on our toes and help us deepen our understanding of our faith.
Jeff: Having read some of the comments on the posts after this one, Salvage still haunts your blog. He is still mentioned. Hopefully, that will end soon too.
It is unfair to challenge him, when he cannot answer the challenge, folks.
Ave Maria gratia plena
Thank you. I knew your motives were providential, but his drivel was pure troll. I expect some new formulations as it relates to engagement and the anonymous aspects of the Internet.
I [like] and [+1] this sentiment.
The attitude, or pretended attitude of “If you refuse to spend the rest of your life in the gutter with me, that proves I’m right” is typical of trolls and ideologues.
I am happy to see that it is now safe to return to your blog which I had always enjoyed but then despaired of.
I thought it revealed what sort of person salvage was that one of the
very few posts he didn’t bother to comment on was your announcement
of your 10-year ‘blogiversary’. That was the only comment thread I
can recall that had 30+ comments (well-wishers all) but not a peep
from salvage. For someone who monopolized the combox like he
did, I felt surprise that it didn’t occur to him to thank you for making
your blog so available.
Jeff, I respect you for your patience with him.
I figured it out after my second attempt to engage in conversation that he was looking for a ban, that was his goal “what can I say that isn’t blatently insulting but still causes emotional responses”
Can you imagine what things will be like when the young generation of internet-addicted atheists who obsess about things they don’t think exist grows up? Millions of little Dennettbots running around, spouting their braindead Reddit memes. Ugh.
Looks like he’s made Shameless Popery his new cave to troll.