A reader sent me a link to this article.
Bishop Kieran Conry of Arundel and Brighton has suggested it is not a good idea to go to Confession regularly.
The bishop made the comment in a frank interview with The Catholic Herald in which he defended “green” youth liturgies and said Humanae Vitae, the encyclical that forbade married couples from using contraception, “could be” wrong because it was not infallible teaching.
Doesn’t it just warm your hearts to know that there are bishops who doesn’t know the difference between the Ordinary and the Extraordinary Magisterium? Hey the Church has never made an infallible definition on infanticide, racism, or genocide so your thinking that these are immoral “might be” wrong.
When asked if he thought regular Confession was a good idea, the bishop said: “No, because my own experience when we had Confession every day at St Chad’s Cathedral in Birmingham was that regular penitents came back with exactly the same words week after week. So there you would say, actually, there is no conversion taking place.”
Concerning the grace you receive in sacramental confession – fuggetaboutit! If you are not instantly cured from habitual sin there is no reason to keep trying. We should be able to give a good confession, receive absolution, and then be canonized! Otherwise no conversion is taking place and we should just give up if we have the same laundry list of sins from week to week.
Now we certainly require the proper disposition to more fully receive the fruits of the sacrament of confession. That certainly even with frequent reception of this sacrament that we can block grace and being complacent by not really preparing ourselves for grace and acting on the grace given.
I do find it odd that those who seem to have a problem with frequent reception of the Sacrament of Reconciliation at the same time don’t seem to have a problem with everyone going to Communion. The Eucharist is a power hose of the sacraments and since the world isn’t brimming with saints I guess “no conversion” is taking place and we should stop having frequent reception of the Eucharist by this logic.
I also noticed he mentioning of using to have daily confession. I guess there like so many places in the world now that I guess people are not sinning anymore and so don’t need more access to the sacrament.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church encourages regular Confession but says that Catholics are only required to confess once a year.
Bishop Conry also suggested that there should be a greater emphasis on charity rather than on contraception.
“The birth control issue becomes easy because it’s measurable. You do it or you don’t do it. But love: you do it or you don’t do it, how can you measure that? We fight the easy battles but we ignore the bigger ones,” he said.
How about both/and here and beside contraception is not opposed to charity. It is a lack of charity that leads to contraception in the first place. The view that a potential child is a nuisance is about as uncharitable as they come. Being open to the gift of children is both charitable and an act of responding to God’s will. And as for “a greater emphasis on charity rather than on contraception” – it would be hard to have a lesser emphasis on something than contraception from the pulpit. Contraception has become the Lord Voldemort of sins. “The-Sin-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named.”
But Bishop Conry criticised environmentalists who attacked the Church’s teaching on contraception.
He said: “You get people like George Monbiot saying: ‘If the Pope changes his position tomorrow, the world would be rid of the scourge of Aids.’ He’s talking nonsense.”
Exactly right.
On the traditional Latin Mass the bishop said he thought it was “a bit over the top” but that he had never tried to restrict it in any way.
He said that traditionalists in England and Wales were “a small group of very vocal people” and that Summorum Pontificum, which allowed priests to celebrate the traditional Mass without the permission of a bishop, did not introduce “significant change”.
Bishop Conry, who is supervising youth ministry after the closure of Catholic Youth Services, also said the Church had to speak to young people in their own language.
He argued that talking about faith in the context of climate change was likely to be more effective than addressing salvation or repentance.
“You can’t talk to young people about salvation,” he said. “What does salvation mean? My eternal soul? You can only talk to young people in young people’s language. If you’re going to talk to them about salvation, the first thing they will understand is saving the planet.”
Yeah young people can’t handle the Gospel. This is exactly the type of thinking that has worked so well in the last 40 years! 40 years of catechetical desert. Sure as St. Paul said we have to be fed milk first, but milk is substantive and you are nourished by it. Preaching the Gospel in the context of climate change is one of the sillier statements I have run across. What exactly is the context? That saving your soul is related to saving the planet? Call me a soulamentalist, but I believe saving your soul is the most important thing, While being a good steward of the environment is being thankful to God for his creation I don’t think climate change hysteria (the new Millenialists) is the proper context for teaching Christ crucified. Pope Benedict has talked about using the context of ecology to explain how respecting the inherent laws of creation as a way of what is seeing what is good or bad. On the occasion he made these remarks on teaching young people he first started with a philosophical explanation of conscience and natural law. We can certainly pull examples from the world around us to explain the moral law and our need for redemption, but we must explain the moral law. Young people deserve the respect to be talked to seriously and not talked down to.
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Perhaps he’s joking??
You know, as a 16-year old, I feel uniquely qualified to comment on the bishop’s statements. Confession is pointless, like telling this old guy about all the ways I’ve messed up, when I’m going to go do the same stuff again five minutes after I leave? That’s just pointless. What’s with all this “moral law”- how can you prove it, anyway? I mean, at least when we try to save the environment, we know we’re doing something positive! Saving the Earth for our children and all that… It’s a lot easier to feel good about myself when I can look at all these people still using incandescent lightbulbs. It’s much better than having to constantly monitor my thoughts, keeping myself centered on Christ and avoiding all sin in thought and deed. My carbon footprint is easier to keep track of than my conscience, so I figure I’ll ride by bicycle to school, recycle my soda cans and scorn all who do not carpool.
I would also like to add that the smell of incense makes me sleepy, and that my doctor tells me I have to eat meat on Fridays in order to keep in proper health. Never mind that, in order to reduce my carbon footprint, I go vegetarian the other 6 days of the week…
I don’t get all this “conversion” and “sacraments” and “metaphysics”- can’t we just drop this whole “Church” concept and just be nice to the Earth?
“The view that a potential child is a nuance is about as uncharitable as they come”.
I laughed till I stopped! 🙂
As it is uncharitable to say that some bishops are idiots I will simply say I am grateful this one is not mine and that I try to go to confession not less than once a month and often more frequently.
“soulamentalist” That’s awesome! I’m going to try to work that into a conversation this week.
What a narrowback! o Much to say But only so much space to write. Guess this bozo will be a nice place to dance upon in hell (Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops!), though there probably won’t be much dancing in hell.
His comments add credence to my theory that confession is the sacrament that nobody wants.
Oh, wow.
I go to confession almost every WEEK! And you know what? It’s the SAME STUFF! All the time! Yes, it’s frustrating, but at least it inspires the virtue of Hope (of overcoming sin), of Love (for God’s Mercy and Justice), of Faith (that God won’t give up on me as easily as that Bishop).
Amazing. Can that Bishop be sent to further training? I thnk he needs his own conversion experience.
According to catholic-hierarchy.org he’s just shy of 59, which means that those poor people are stuck with him for 16 more years! Unless the Lord recalls him sooner.
This is a wonderful example of the same old crap. This is a Bishop, no wonder England is quickly being over run by Islam and Sharia Law.
With this kind of whoot-n-nanny coming from a leader of the Christian Faith I would run screaming as well.
Do you think that he has even thought about his comments. I mean young people are more concerned about the planet than their soul so we have to show them we care about the planet before we can do anything about their soul. Hey genious maybe you should teach them that they should care more about their soul and the souls of their friends and family before anything else other than God. Hey that is an idea.
Absolute rot gut!
Recent circumstance has proven to me that some things don’t change. If I don’t go to Confession at least once a month, I either have difficulty defining my sins, or I am more concerned about boring the confessor than I am sorry for my sins. No doubt I will have to work harder to work around my work schedule so that I don’t drive myself and my confessor(s) crazy with my babble.
Incidentally, one of the most amazing, healing aspects of receiving the sacrament of Reconciliation, for me, is that it is revealed to me before the Blessed Sacrament, after the fact of Confession and absolution, what I SHOULD have been most sorry for. Without frequent Reconciliation, I am always more sorry for the offense I have caused the world, than my offenses against God Himself. I lose sight of the difference, or at least I lose the right sense of priority.
Still, I am always sorry for the confusion I cause during Confession. My first prayer after penance is always a plea for forgiveness for baffling or distressing a priest.
At least he’s honestly dissenting…unlike some of the American Hierarchy
Reading this really makes me want to be an English Dominican!
Pray that my OP brother, fra. Aidan Nichols is named archbishop of Westminster…
Fr. Philip, OP
“You can’t talk to young people about salvation,” he said.”
Are these the same young people who are joining those religious orders that do the very things he says we shouldn’t be doing? It sounds to me that when you do talk about salvation & present the Church’s teachings accurately & faithfully that it will attract the young-uns. & more of the failed drivel of that last 40 years that he urges continuing with will only drive them away.
Where does our holy mother the Church *find* these guys? Baffling.
The notion that frequent confession of the same sins without any change in behaviour is useless stems from a Pelagian mindset. If we work out our own salvation and build virtues by our own powers, then there should be an immediate and lasting change in our behaviour and continual steady progress in the moral life. Such a conception of spiritual progress lives little room for wretched Christians like myself who struggle with daily temptations to mortal sin. Pelagianism is in the air we breathe…the progressives breathe it just as much, if not more, than cantankerous trads like myself. We must all beware this trap.
People are so wrong about young people. I think the idea that the young can’t handle the gospel is one of the most dangerous lies that satan has spread through out the world. What do people think: that they “can handle” the life we see them living without the Good News of Christ. What do people think they are “protecting” them from by not telling them the truth of Our Lord? It’s insane.
I’m so thankful for my children who draw me closer to Christ everyday by their youthful dedication to Christ. My 14 year old daughter starts getting antsy when we haven’t gone to confession in a month. She bugs us to go. I have to tell her to be patient! My 20 year old wrote in his Christmas cards that what he wants for Christmas is to see all the miracles of Jesus. We need the faith our young. By holding them back, we hold ourselves back.
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A Blessed last week of Advent to you Jeff and to all your readers!
Kneeling before God and his priest, this rather stern sounding confessor gave me a very tough penance, a penance for which I am eternally grateful. That penance reoriented me to God. I am so glad that particular priest and other confessors who have “put up with me” were not averse to hearing the confessions of this “repeat offender”. Can you imagine a medical doctor giving up on a patient who wants to overcome a drug addiction – “Uh yeah, there’s no hope for you – here’s the number of a drug dealer who’ll fix ya up.” How much more bizarre (and damning) for a bishop to suggest abandoning people to their sins. This evening at Mass, the deacon gave a timely and charitable reminder how crucial to our salvation it is to keep on trying and not give up. I hope I never meet a priest who says to me – sorry, there’s no hope for you. The good bishop might keep in mind that, even though he may not see an opportunity for God to work, nevertheless God sees into the heart of the imperfect penitent and can work through an imperfect priest to restore a lost soul, even if it takes repeat visits to overcome an habitual sin. Thanks be to God for all His sacraments!
Our Lady of Ransom, pray for Your dowry!
Perhaps the title ought to have been:
Confessor advises against frequent (listening to) bishops.
Jeff:
The root of the problem with this bishop in particular, and with the lay population in general, is to preserve a comfortable ‘status quo’ (don’t rock the boat).
In this case: confusing respect towards legal authority, with being complicit in wrongdoing.
Fortunately, there are bishops like the ordinary of Scranton that declared: the USCCB (protecting scandalous lawmakers), does not speak for me or Vatican Doctrine: Abp. Burke.
This fearsome off the record self-censorship of the TRUTH is pandemic!!! And, pernicious in many blog-Catholic media.
Constructive criticism can be exemplified in one piece, uncovering how you waste your tax dollars promoting promiscuity, against the plain truthful evidence.
Please look this stuff from my friend Harvard’s Professor E. Green:
http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/04/8287/south-africa/
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