In a typical Fr. Reese. S.J. article in Commonweal on "Reforming the Vatican" he starts of with the fact that the structures of the Church have developed over time and I guess from his analysis all in the wrong direction.
The contemporary papacy rules the church with powers that would be the envy of any absolute monarch: the pope holds supreme legislative, executive, and judicial authority with few checks on his power. This power is especially evident in the appointment of bishops.
Though one of those checks being Papal Infallibility and the promise of the Holy Spirit that the gates of Hell will never prevail against the Church. That is a pretty good check and balance that even morally evil popes never changed Church teaching.
He then goes on to talk about the history of how Bishops were selected from when the faithful in the early centuries were chosen via general acclaim and the various systems that included control by nobles and kings up to the present day. He does give a fairly good historical overview of this.
All of this changed in the nineteenth century, when revolutions wiped out most of the Catholic monarchs in Europe. Rather than returning the selection of bishops to the local church, popes made it their own prerogative. Unsurprisingly, this led to the appointment of bishops who were loyal to Rome and would support its preeminence in the church.
Wow this leads to the appointment of Bishops loyal to the Church and who actually believed in the role of the Pope! Well this would be nice if it actually always happened. But the Pope relies on the recommendations of the local Church and the Papal Nuncio and is not infallible in this regards.
But the appointment of bishops is not the only example of the papacy’s consolidation of power. In the early centuries of the church, regional or national councils of bishops helped define doctrine, coordinated church policy, and even provided a forum for judging bishops. The bishop of Rome acted as a court of appeal when bishops and councils disagreed.
For liberals everything is always about power, nothing can be done because it might be more prudent or efficient. The Bishop of Rome though has never acted as a court of appeal. Always the Pope made the final decisions as to what was approved and not approved in a council. They did not simply appeal to him upon conflicts since even unanimous decisions would have to be signed off by the Pope.
National bishops’ conferences are the true successors of these councils, but the Vatican refuses to allow them the independence to act like the councils of old. Similarly, ecumenical councils once had greater independence; according to some theologians, the councils even had the authority to impeach popes.
Say what? But I guess whenever you are about to say something really stupid you start off the sentence with "according to some theologians" and I guess this is a form of plausible deniability. There is just so much mistaken in what he says on both impeaching the pope and bishops conferences being the true successors to councils. There is no absolute requirement for a local bishop conferences. I believe then-Cardinal Ratzinger has even said that they have no theological basis for existence. They are simply a prudential structure that has been setup for administrative reasons to serve the Church. It is strange how many progressives will attack the authority of the pope which certainly is backed up by scripture and Apostolic Tradition and of course dogmatic teaching and yet will praise bishop conferences which have no real authority other than what the individual bishops as a whole give it. This type of statement would claim that a local bishops conference can decide doctrinal questions and I guess different local bishop conferences could come up with contrary answers. The local conferences in no way will ever be the successor of a true ecumenical council and the real councils were never independent from the pope in the first place.
The centralization of power in the Vatican was often a legitimate response to the political interference of kings and nobles in the life of the local church. Popes could stand up to kings better than the local church could. But now that few kings or noblemen are in a position to meddle with the church, one could argue that such centralization is no longer necessary—and that it is in fact counterproductive.
He doesn’t explain exactly how this is counterproductive. The Pope as the ultimate decider of episcopal ordinations is also a corrective to a diocese that has gone off the rails. We don’t want to see places like the Diocese of Rochester and others to perpetuate themselves with like minded bishops. To have various diocese perpetuating their own form of Catholicism in whatever form it might take would be counterproductive. That the modern approach was not used in the early church and beyond is simply because they did not have the forms of timely communication that we are now use to.
Now we come to his reforms:
Make the Vatican a bureaucracy, not a court. Most countries have found that a royal court composed of a king and his nobles is not a good way to govern. The Vatican is still as much a court as a bureaucracy, with cardinals referred to as princes of the church and bishops acting like nobles. I would recommend that no Vatican bureaucrat be made a bishop or a cardinal. One of the problems with nobles and bishops is that it is difficult to fire them even when they are incompetent or when there is a change in administrations. Such a reform would also remind the Vatican bureaucracy that it is a servant of the pope and the college of bishops and not itself part of the magisterium.
The problem here is that he is starting with too broad a generalization of how curial officials act and the idea that non-Bishops in these positions would make a major difference. That because they are called princes of the Church that they necessarily act like that. Last I checked we all suffer from original sin. Truly he has a point about having a greater difficult in firing incompetent Bishops and Cardinals in the curia, but is this really a major problem that we need to eliminate cardinals and bishops from the equation? The trend of having more lay people serving in the curia is a growing one and a positive one and surely having a mix of clergy and lay people in the curia is the better solution.
Strengthen the legislative bodies in the church. At the same time that the role of the nobility in governance was declining in civil society, the role of independent legislatures was increasing. No modern political philosophy would advise a polity to depend only on the wisdom of an executive. There is universal recognition that the synod of bishops created by Paul VI has failed to rise to expectations. I would recommend that no member of the Vatican bureaucracy be a member of the synod of bishops: they could attend the synod as experts and staff, but not as voting members. All of the members of the synod should be elected by episcopal conferences; none should be appointed. The synod should also meet on a regular basis—say, once every five years—and, of course, the synod would need committees to prepare agendas and documents between meetings. There should also be an ecumenical council at least once every generation.
I think the idea of timed synods is mistaken. Nothing is worse than meetings timed on a schedule that have nothing to do with need. We are having a meeting because it is Tuesday. The Synod of Bishops is at the service of the Pope and called when he thinks something requires this collaboration. The reality is that since the Second Vatican II council 21 special and general assemblies have been called and general assembles are occurring roughly every four to five years already. I get the idea that he just doesn’t like how the synods have turned out because they have not created the changes in doctrine and practice he desires. I also wonder why he thinks being a member of the curia and a synod would be a conflict in the first place? They are not in opposition to each other unless you think that the role of the synods is to mainly change the curia and this is seen as a loss of power. The idea of timed ecumenical councils is even worse. Do we put the Holy Spirit on a calendar?
Convert congregations into elected synodal committees. Vatican congregations and councils are committees of cardinals and bishops appointed by the pope. Each is responsible for a special domain within the church-such as liturgy, ecumenism, evangelization, and canon law. The Vatican cardinals are the most influential members of these committees. The chairman of each committee (called a prefect for a congregation and a president for a council) is also the head of an office of the same name. These offices advise the pope and implement church policy.
Not sure exactly what a "elected synodal committee" are and who they would be elected by. Though generally I guess it flows from the idea that Vatican cardinals are the cause of problems and this is consistent with the rest of his reforms.
One important function of any legislative body is oversight of the bureaucracy. Members of Vatican congregations and councils should therefore be elected by synods or by episcopal conferences; that way synods and conferences can act as policy-making and oversight bodies for the Vatican bureaucracy. Vatican bureaucrats should not also be members of congregations, though they could attend meetings as experts and staff.
First off how in the world could individual conferences perform these elections? I guess you could have something like a football draft where each conference takes turns with an appointment. Conferences could trade picks since this model is all about power and influence. Time and time again he forgets that there is oversight and it is called the pope. But the purpose of Fr. Reese’s reforms are about moving responsibility from the pope and distributing it. That the papacy should be all about the pope being in union with the bishops and not the fact that the teaching magisterium consists of the pope and the bishops in communion with him. Time and time again I get the idea that progressive really don’t believe in papal infallibility and that if they could just get their own guy in there everything would change. The fact that doctrine doesn’t change within the Church is due to stubborn popes and not the protection of the Holy Spirit seems to be their view.
Create an independent judiciary. One of the most important elements in a government that operates under the rule of law is an independent judiciary. To allow the executive to indict, prosecute, judge, and sentence a defendant is today considered a violation of due process. The treatment of theologians accused of dissent by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) is one of the scandals of the church. The potential for such scandal will remain as long as the CDF continues to act as policeman, prosecutor, judge, and jury. An independent jury, perhaps made up of retired bishops, could correct the problem.
Anybody that actually looks at the record of the CDF in regards to the treatment of dissenting theologian will find a record of very slow deliberations and less than a handful of actual excommunications. Some would think that the scandal of the CDF is how slow they react and how rare any punitive action is. I happen to think that the CDF is doing this functioning quite correctly in giving every opportunity for these theologians to explain themselves adequately. Can he give one example of a theologian that has had some punitary action given that did not deserve it? What he really wants is that no theologian be disciplined as long as they espouse a faddish heresy to his liking. I doubt if he is much upset with the actions by the CDF in regards to Archbishop Lefebvre. He also does not explain how this "independent jury" would be so different and what the actual problems are with the CDF. I guess the CDF is the boogeyman for some and you just have to reference it and it is understood to be evil.
Elect bishops. The appointment of bishops by the pope is a modern innovation that follows a corporate model, whereby the pope acts as CEO and the bishops as branch managers. While this corporate model is highly centralized, successful political models teach us that local leaders need to be chosen by local citizens. Today it might be possible, and advisable, to return to the system endorsed by Pope Leo I, so that every bishop would be elected by the local clergy, accepted by the people of his diocese, and consecrated by the bishops of his province.
This model works much better in the early Church when communities are much smaller and just being members of the Church could get them martyred. Cafeteria Catholicism was not very prevalent then. Today it does not seem very practical and exactly what would this mechanism for acceptance be? Would they take a poll or vote on it? Would Catholics who thinks they can be a good Catholic and miss Mass regularly be acceptable voters? If the selected bishop actually teaches the hard sayings of Christ is he going to get accepted in a culture such of ours? With the current model of input by the local Church, papal nuncio, and final decision by the Pope really gives us the best model for now and increases the connection between the local Church and the Pope. Somehow the checks and balances he wants don’t apply when it comes to the selection of bishops. Though I don’t know why I am spending time fisking this article. If someone sees the Pope as CEO and bishops as branch managers they really need to go back and take Church ecclesiology 101. There is a reason we call the Pope Holy Father and not Holy CEO. Why we see bishops as shepherds and not branch managers. The CEO/branch manager understanding of the Church could hardly be more wrong.
Hey how about the laity getting to vote on the next Jesuit General or perhaps the editorial boards at America and Commonweal Magazines? Power to the people!
Strengthen episcopal conferences by making them councils. Not everything can or should be decided by a centralized government. Catholic social teaching speaks of the importance of subsidiarity in political structures and policy: what can be done locally should be done locally. In ancient times, local and regional councils of bishops played an important part in determining church teaching and discipline. Episcopal conferences need to become episcopal councils. They need to regain their independent role in establishing church policy. They should not need to have every decision and document reviewed and ratified by the Vatican. Bishops must be trusted to know what is best for the local church.
Unless that bishop is the Pope I guess. Bishops do have a lot of autonomy in how they best spread the Gospel and a lot of leeway within their own diocese regarding their flock. They just don’t have the authority to "teach another Gospel." Again we see the suggestion of having what would be hundreds of councils as if this idea shouldn’t be mocked for its stupidity especially in regards to determining Church teaching. That you could go from country to country and have Church teaching change. Local and regional councils were never independent from the authority of the Pope and if you wanted to go by this model we would all be Aryans today or whatever heresy that would have replaced it. If Bishops must be trusted to know what is best for the local Church than we can eliminate bishop conferences.
What are the chances of such reforms actually taking place? As a social scientist, I’d have to say they’re probably close to zero. The church is now run by a self-perpetuating group of men who know such reform would diminish their power. It is also contrary to their theology of the church. But as a Catholic Christian, I still have to hope.
Yes it is all about power. People serve in the curia only for power. No other motives possible. Protecting the faith from error, the liturgy from abuse, and all the other roles performed are all just about power. But he is right that his reform won’t be implemented because of their theology of the Church. Fr. Reese’s ecclesiology is much different with no role for the papacy other than as a figurehead that should rubber stamp anything coming across his desk. I wonder if he considers Apostolic succession as a "self-perpetuating group of men."
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It sounds like this fellow is trying to turn the church into a democracy. It never was that. Silly.
For a case study of a ecclesial organization that does not have either a pope or magisterium, check the history of the Episcopal Church. It has now gone so far off the rails, that it has effectively ceased to be Christian. Perhaps Fr. Reese would feel more at home there…
Tom,
He would feel too much at home there and there is no fun in being “prophetic” when what you call for has already been done. Being one more person on the Titanic doesn’t get you media attention.
“few kings or noblemen are in a position to meddle with the church”
Funny thing, though — a whole lot of tyrannical governments are not just in a position to meddle; they do.
Maureen,
Well places like China are so small that they can easily slip your mind. Besides Communist countries repressing religious freedom is a blind spot for progressives.
It’s funny this decentralized Church is presented as a drawn out hypothetical situation when we have the real situation right in front of us in the form of mainline Protestantism.
I don’t think the CDF is that harsh. If I recall correctly, when Father Nugent and Sister Jeannine Gramick came under criticism for their ministry/writings to gays and lesbians, the CDF gave them a chance to defend themselves against their accusations and still be allowed to remain in the religious life provided they left the ministry.
Jesus told Pete to be a fisher of men, not let the fish vote on how they got netted (or what type of net the fisher uses, etc. lol).
I may not always be the best Catholic and may have liberal leanings on an issue or two, but there’s no denying we do need il papa to hold the thing together!
I’m surprised anyone made it all the way through this lengthy post. I’m glad I did, though, otherwise I might have missed this gem:
“It is also contrary to their theology of the church. But as a Catholic Christian, I still have to hope.”
Setting aside the word “their”, or at least assuming they (the Bishops/Popes) are on to something, that line really is quite telling. Basically he is just setting his ecclesiology over theirs. As a Catholic Christian, should he not think and believe with the Church. But, of course, as our Holy Father reminded us in his address to the Bishops, “it cannot be assumed that all Catholic citizens think in harmony with the Church’s teaching.”
God doesn’t seem to feel the need to rule by committee (don’t think you can really call the Trinity a committee). I don’t think we need the Church run by one either.
Great fisk Jeff. I’d responded to this as well, but more to the general sentiment, rather than a paragraph-by-paragraph response to the proposals. Stellar job.
Of course, I doubt it will change his mind, or those who are waiting for some hypothetical future Church of their fantasies to emerge.
How foolish! Of course, there are many differences between the Church now and the Church in the 4th century. Fr. Reese wants to have decentralized governance, but I dare say he doesn’t want 4th century liturgy. There are two sides to tradition – the retention of that which was before and the transmission into new forms and models that both serve truth and its prudential application. Unless, Fr. Reese realizes that there are greater truths beyond these practical prudential decisions of who makes up which synod or committee, then his historical citation is at best helpful and his conclusions remain rubbish.
Are episcopal conferences evil? no. Are they wonderful? no. Are they worthwhile? Maybe. How is this not a prudential decision on the part of the Church?
If the Church was to adopt a “democratic” model, were that possible, we would soon see the same disintegration and heresy present in Episcopal (TEC) circles. Catholics should rejoice in the protection of the Holy Spirit that the Church enjoys. We are so fortunate to have the Papacy, a gift given by Christ Himself. Threats to impose “democracy” on God’s Church amount to a variation of the devil’s motto: non serviam.
I seem to recall having heard (or read) somewhere that the CDF had issued a notificatio to one P. Reese SJ re the theological contents of his writings. Is this true or has this been a hoax?
This poor priest. He’s basically a caricature. It’s so sad.
I wonder why he doesn’t mention the Second Vatican Council in his criticisms? It taught in Christus Dominus the model that he thinks needs to be done away (in fact, it specifically advocates that the offices of the Roman Curia be filled with bishops more often than had been done.)
I wonder how much of his vitriol can be traced back to when Pope Paul VI issued Humanae Vitae, even though a panel of “experts” had suggested the Church change it’s teaching on contraception.
It would be interesting to find out, if people like Reese actually were to get their way, and have a “democratic” Church, that they would find themselves totally and completely on the outside once all the voting was done, with even less power than they presume to have today. That would be the Holy Spirit poking them in the eye, saying “Ha ha, gotcha!!”
Whenever I read anything by Reese I can’t help but wonder what he has been smoking.
Let me get this straight: the Church needs more bureaucracies, committees,and elections for bishops. Oh yes and give the people who gave us Always Our Children more power. Ummm, right.
“Whenever I read anything by Reese I can’t help but wonder what he has been smoking.” — LOL — thank you – couldn’t agree more.
Is Rochester really that bad that its the diocese you mention? Having lived in the diocese my whole (short) life I have actually seen improvement (at least in my home parish). Our sister doesn’t give the homily any more and we have a bunch of great deacons who preach about this thing called confession that I must have forgot about since grade school.
Bishop Clark is trying though. He has a new program called Spirit Alive (rochesterspiritalive.org).
Our parishoners dont give him much respect. The local media has been running stories about people who are now going to stop giving money to the diocese because the bishop is closing adozen schools in Rochester. They protest outside his office and must not have read that part of the catechism that says to reject your bishop is to reject Christ.
We deal. And thankfully we have been reminded that we have Christ our Hope!
“one could argue that such centralization is no longer necessary”
Yes, “one” could, but does “one” actually attempt to do so? Reese suggests a lot of hypothetical solutions to poorly defined problems, but I don’t think that counts.
What’s Latin for “the fallacy of the argument from possibility?” Or “If it could be true, then it is?”
“if people like Reese actually were to get their way, and have a ‘democratic’ Church, that they would find themselves totally and completely on the outside”
Or maybe half the congregation would vote to split because they prefer a different scent of incense.
Yes, that pesky obedience is always a sticking point.
Personally, the dissolution of the USCCB would get a yay vote from me.
And the muzzling of Fr. Reese would as well!
I tried to read it, Jeff, but whenever I get maybe five sentences into anything by Fr. Reece, I can only hear “WAHwah WAHwahwah WAHwahWAHwah.” I feel like I’m trapped in a Peanuts cartoon.
The idea of locally-elected bishops is popular with VOTF, too. The gist is that in future years, proponents of female ordination (sic) can select a nun as a bishop or some other “popular” choice.
Wow. Talk about eyes glazing over. I couldn’t read all that tripe from Reese’s Pieces of Heresy. Let me see if my general impression is correct.
He appeals to a (distorted) history to justify a democratic Church which can then disregard everything that came to us through that history.
That about it?
The mistake the good Father makes is that he assumes democracy is the best form of government. For a secular government, he is probably right. The best form of government, however, is a monarchy, where the ruler is completely devoted to Christ. He would be so devoted and in love with Christ, that he would see himself as a servant of his people rather than a master. Does this form of government sound familiar?
BTW I need to thank the good Father, he just gave me an idea for my senior thesis. A look at the history of the power of the Pope to appoint Bishops.
– re “what he has been smoking”
There is old, old tale about altar boys getting high breathing in too much incense. To my knowledge, it’s a foaf-story (the friend of a friend of my cousin’s neighbour met somebody who actually knew the altar boy in question) … anybody tried that one yet?
Fr. Reese’s scholarship is guided by his political views and ecclesial blindness and not by any truth or actual study. Another example of the liberal pursuit of mediocrity and lunacy.
Its too bad a thoughtful article that could be a STARTING POINT for a wider discussion gets ‘snark’ as a response. I really think Fr. Reese starts off a useful discussion for the Church.
However, if we are going to pick, let me respond to:
“The problem here is that he is starting with too broad a generalization of how curial officials act and the idea that non-Bishops in these positions would make a major difference. That because they are called princes of the Church that they necessarily act like that. Last I checked we all suffer from original sin. Truly he has a point about having a greater difficult in firing incompetent Bishops and Cardinals in the curia, but is this really a major problem that we need to eliminate cardinals and bishops from the equation? The trend of having more lay people serving in the curia is a growing one and a positive one and surely having a mix of clergy and lay people in the curia is the better solution.”
Curial titluar bishops are not titled ‘Princes of the Church’. That title goes to Cardinals be they curial or residential bishops.
Fr. Reese seems to say nothing about eliminating deacons and priests from curial work. In fact curial work is a very obvious diaconial ministry it would seem.
I too would agree that if not eliminate, we severely limit the number of men raised to the episcopacy for the purpose of serving as a Vatican bureaucrat (though still men might retire as diocesean bishop to work at the Vatican). The nature of the office of the episcopacy is the shepherd a particular portion of the faithful. Any other work is ‘extraordinary’ (just like lay people serving communion).
Fr. Reese is just one more ignorant person saying stupid things. I put him in the same column as Madonna and Michael Jackson. Oh wait, he can’t dance….
Though one of those checks being Papal Infallibility and the promise of the Holy Spirit that the gates of Hell will never prevail against the Church. That is a pretty good check and balance that even morally evil popes never changed Church teaching.
Both are irrelevant to the issue. Papal infallibility refers to doctrine, not personal incompetence or malfeasance. Moreover, Christ’s promise does not validate His right and perogative to judge the Church should it be found wanting. Remember that the Israelites were given land in the OT contingent on their responsibility to act as His oracle people. After centuries of increasing idolatry, God allowed the Assyrians and the Babylonians to conquer Judah and Israel and enslave the survivors, thus ending the Israelites’ political independence.
Given the fact that dioceses are declaring bankruptcy, vocations are falling and people are leaving the church, who’s to say that God and Christ are not scorging this Church?
The Bishop of Rome though has never acted as a court of appeal. Always the Pope made the final decisions as to what was approved and not approved in a council. They did not simply appeal to him upon conflicts since even unanimous decisions would have to be signed off by the Pope.
Then the Pope bears the ultimate responsibility for what his bishops do, since he approves them and keeps them in office.
The Pope as the ultimate decider of episcopal ordinations is also a corrective to a diocese that has gone off the rails. We don’t want to see places like the Diocese of Rochester and others to perpetuate themselves with like minded bishops. To have various diocese perpetuating their own form of Catholicism in whatever form it might take would be counterproductive.
The whole reason that dioceses like Rochester have “like-minded bishops” is because the system of episcopal training effectively produces clones of such people. Any centralized bureaucracy that isolates its members from the people they claim to serve, demands blind deference to its leaders and discourages accountability at any turn is bound to be a breeding ground for corruption.
more to come…
The idea of timed ecumenical councils is even worse. Do we put the Holy Spirit on a calendar?
That is an insult to the Holy Spirit! The Holy Spirit embodies wisdom that God gives to anyone who asks! The problem is that ecclesiastical bureaucrats act as if they have more wisdom than the Holy Spriit.
Somehow the checks and balances he wants don’t apply when it comes to the selection of bishops. Though I don’t know why I am spending time fisking this article. If someone sees the Pope as CEO and bishops as branch managers they really need to go back and take Church ecclesiology 101. There is a reason we call the Pope Holy Father and not Holy CEO. Why we see bishops as shepherds and not branch managers. The CEO/branch manager understanding of the Church could hardly be more wrong.
This is nothing but the rehash of lame excuses from people who want to protect every decision of the Pope and the episcopocracy at all costs. The Pope is the Vicar of Christ! He should act like it! Read Jeremian 23: 9-40 or Matthew 23 about false shepherds and how they behave. Notice any differences between then and now? I think not.
Protecting the faith from error, the liturgy from abuse, and all the other roles performed are all just about power. But he is right that his reform won’t be implemented because of their theology of the Church. Fr. Reese’s ecclesiology is much different with no role for the papacy other than as a figurehead that should rubber stamp anything coming across his desk. I wonder if he considers Apostolic succession as a “self-perpetuating group of men.”
Jeff, you are so naive about human nature as to be pathetic. This is why the Catholic Church is doomed to divine judgement: It idolizes the prudential structures used in implementing apostolic succession and misuses those structures to encourage corruption and malfeasance. Devout Catholics like yourself fall into this trap because you have been brainwashed into offering blind deference to these false shepherds, and become part of the problem.
Christ doesn’t want “sheep” as followers (His pastoral metaphors involving sheep are meant to demonstrate His compassionate, conscientious attitude toward His followers). He wants men and women who will be faithful to Him and His Father, not to prudential structures that twist “apostolic succession” into an excuse for malfeasance, corruption and complacency.
haha, this guy just makes me laugh at his intellectual incompotence.
I made it halfway through. I knew when I read the first paragraph you quoted, Jeff, as a good thing, that I couldn’t get on the same track as Fr Reese. Regular ecumenical councils IN ADDITION to as-needed meetings wouldn’t necessarily disrespect the Holy Spirit, though. With the right disposition, they would be giving time to gather and listen together to the Holy Spirit, as we give over at least one “calendar” day per week, Sunday, as the Lord’s Day.
It’s the intention of the proposed scheduled councils that I mistrust, not the idea regular meetings.
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