Shocked I tell you. Joan Chittister, OSB is not happy about the Motu Proprio Wow who could imagine a writer for the National Catholic Reporter not being onboard?
Seriously though, or as seriously as I get, her article is a real gem of silliness and misdirection. First she gets on her favorite hobby horse and rides off into the sunset.
It used to be that if you asked a question about the Catholic church, you got very straightforward answers. No, we did not eat meat on Friday. Yes, we had to go to church every Sunday.
Not any more.
In fact, the answers are getting more confusing all the time. Consider the question of how the newly revised Roman Missal is better than the last, for instance.
They tell us now that Mass texts — including even hymns — may not include feminine references to God. And this in a church that has routinely addressed God as Key of David, Door of life, wind, fire, light and dove. God who is also, they tell us, "pure spirit" can never, ever, be seen as ‘mother.’ Are we to think, then, that even hinting at the notion that the image of God includes the image of women as well as the image of men, as God in Genesis says it does, is dangerous to the faith? Antithetical to the faith? Heresy?
So let me get this straight she liked straight answers just as long as they are not "no" Exactly how is "no" confusing? Are their nuances of no that I am unaware of? Exactly how hard is if for her to realize that we should use the language God himself gave us to refer to the persons of the Holy Trinity and that when scripture uses feminine references to God it is always as a metaphor and not the stronger language involving relationships with God.
Or, too, we learned that the words of the consecration itself would soon be edited to correct the notion that Jesus came to save "all" — as we had been taught in the past — to the idea that Jesus came to save "many." The theological implications of changing from "all" to "many" boggles the mind. Who is it that Jesus did not come to save?
Does such a statement imply again that "only Catholics go to heaven?" And, if read like that by others, is this some kind of subtle retraction of the whole ecumenical movement?
I do love the irony of her using "as we have been taught in the past" for her defense of not using exact language that has part the Latin text for even the new Mass. Unfortunately I seem to not have been along for the ride when she jumped from this issue to it meaning that "only Catholics go to heaven." How you go from many/all to ecumenism is beyond me.
Now, this week, we got the word that the pope himself, contrary to the advice and concerns of the world’s bishops, has restored the Tridentine Latin Rite. It is being done, the pope explains, to make reconciliation easier with conservative groups.
Though of course neither Summorum Pontificum or the explanatory letter say any such thing and I guess she must equate the SSPX as a conservative group and not a schismatic group. Though maybe thinking about her using the word schismatic would be to ironic.
But it does not, at the same time, make reconciliation easier with women, who are now pointedly left out of the Eucharistic celebration entirely, certainly in its God-language, even in its pronouns. Nor does it seem to care about reconciliation with Jews who find themselves in the Tridentine Good Friday rite again as "blind" and objects of conversion. It’s difficult not to wonder if reconciliation is really what it’s all about.
Though of course the word blind is no part of the Good Friday rite anymore. I do wonder what it is about the new Mass properly celebrated that makes this "reconciliation easier with women."
Now you new this would come up in her article:
The Latin Mass, for instance, in which the priest celebrates the Eucharist with his back to the people, in a foreign language — much of it said silently or at best whispered — makes the congregation, the laity, observers of the rite rather than participants in it.
The celebrant becomes the focal point of the process, the special human being, the one for whom God is a kind of private preserve.
The symbology of a lone celebrant, removed from and independent of the congregation, is clear: ordinary people have no access to God. They are entirely dependent on a special caste of males to contact God for them. They are "not worthy," to receive the host, or as the liturgy says now, even to have Jesus "come under my roof."
And the priest facing the people does not become the focal point of what she calls the "process." Funny I thought the priest praying along with the people and facing the altar with the people would be less of a focal point and would be more "inclusive" with the parish. But what gets me the most is just how bad her sacramental theology and understanding of the Mass is in the first place. Might not she have heard that the priest is In Persona Christi? Up upon the cross Jesus as High Priest and victim was that lone celebrant that she dislikes so much. Plus the idea that the Church is saying the people are "not worthy" to receive the host when one purpose of the Eucharistic liturgy is to confect the Eucharist so that they may receive.
The Eucharist in such a setting is certainly not a celebration of the entire community. It is instead a priestly act, a private devotion of both priest and people, which requires for its integrity three "principal parts" alone — the offertory, the consecration and the communion. The Liturgy of the Word — the instruction in what it means to live a Gospel life — is, in the Tridentine Rite, at best, a minor element.
Exactly how do her criticism of the Tridentine Rite also not apply to the new form of Mass? I have been to both forms of Mass and by praying the Mass I guess I must of deluded myself that I was actually participating in it.
In the Latin mass, the sense of mystery — of mystique — the incantation of "heavenly" rather than "vulgar" language in both prayer and music, underscores a theology of transcendence. It lifts a person out of the humdrum, the dusty, the noisy, the crowded chaos of normal life to some other world. It reminds us of the world to come — beautiful, mystifying, hierarchical, perfumed — and makes this one distant. It takes us beyond the present, enables us, if only for a while, to "slip the surly bonds of earth" for a world more mystical than mundane.
And that is a bad thing?
It privatizes the spiritual life. The Tridentine Mass is a God-and-I liturgy.
And constant refrains of "Here I am Lord" don’t.
The Vatican II liturgy, on the other hand, steeps a person in community, in social concern, in the hard, cold, clear reality of the present. The people and priest pray the Mass together, in common language, with a common theme. They interact with one another. They sing "a new church into being,’ non-sexist, inclusive, centered together in the Jesus who walked the dusty roads of Galilee curing the sick, raising the dead, talking to women and inviting the Christian community to do the same.
Wow that paragraph had a real high buzz word content.
The Vatican II liturgy carries within it a theology of transformation. It does not seek to create on earth a bit of heaven; it does set out to remind us all of the heaven we seek. It does not attempt to transcend the present. It does seek to transform it. It creates community out of isolates in an isolating society.
There is a power and a beauty in both liturgical traditions, of course. No doubt they both need a bit of the other. Eucharist after all is meant to be both transcendent and transformative. But make no mistake: In their fundamental messages, they present us with more than two different styles of music or two different languages or two different sets of liturgical norms. They present us with two different churches.
Gee somehow I doubt that she would refer to the new Mass as celebrated by EWTN in exactly the same terms. The music she seems to desire really has nothing to do with the new Mass at all and is in fact mostly contrary to the documents of the very Council she says she admires so much.
So I guess since the Catholic Church has something around 28 different rites that she is made of of 28 different churches or do the Easter rites not count in her world? Different forms of an authorized liturgy do not make different churches. A heavily Protestantized Mass with a lot of "creativity" and divergence from liturgical documents can lead to that though.
The theological questions that lurk under the incense and are obscured by the language are far more serious than that. They’re about what’s really good for the church — ecumenism or ecclesiastical ghettoism, altars and altar rails, mystique or mystery, incarnation as well as divinity, community or private spirituality?
Again more false dichotomy between the two Masses. Plus I thought that Catholics actually understood both/and and not the false either/or oppositions.
From where I stand, it seems obvious that the Fathers of Vatican Council II knew the implications of the two different Eucharistic styles then and bishops around the world know it still. But their concerns have been ignored. They don’t have much to do with it anymore. Now it’s up to the laity to decide which church they really want — and why. Which we choose may well determine the very nature of the church for years to come.
Because this has worked so well for Protestantism.
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Jake, no that’s not exactly correct. Article 2 says that private Masses (as opposed to public) cannot be said during the Triduum, which has always been the case. Certainly, most parishes that will make use of the motu proprio most likely will have only one liturgy on each day of the Triduum, and it will probably be the new rite. But the personal parishes that say the 1962 Mass exclusively will continue to celebrate in the old rite then, as will other indult communities that have done so in the past. I could also imagine a determined pastor being able to arrange public celebrations of the old liturgy during the Triduum now, but that might entail having more than one liturgy a day,and would prove problematic.
Holy Chit, Sr. Joan! So surprising to hear this sort of stuff coming from you.
Dr. Robinson,
I’m sorry for the distress some half- and non-truths have caused you — lies have been the cause of suffering for all of us since Day 1.
One of the basic truths this side of heaven is that people blow it. Big time. They say and do things to other people that do not represent God or His love for each of us. Yep, even Church people.
Another basic truth is that — well, it’s kind of like what you find in science. Know how we can’t perceive with the naked eye what a telescope and a microscope can show us? And know how what you see through the lens amazes b/c it sure didn’t look that way with your own eyes? That’s what faith is like. We see/experience hurtful things, and perceive that we must be unloved and maybe even unlovable. But if you look through the lens of faith, mirable dictu! We are not only lovable, we are loved! It’s true! But, I agree: hard to pick up on, especially without that lens.
I say that so I can tell you the following — and I hope you can see your way clear to believe it: Jesus came, lived here, suffered, died, rose, and ascended into heaven to save you. Not JUST you, but definitely, YOU are included in His list of “People I Want To Have With Me In Heaven.”
And if you wouldn’t mind indulging a not-so-closet etymologist: ‘men,’ up until the early 1900’s, really did mean ‘the human race.’ Check some old Bibles, dictionaries, etc. That plot about the word ‘men’ excluding all us women? Another lie.
Here’s a prayer you find a lens and see truth, so you can know how much God loves you.
Peace,
-The celebrant becomes the focal point of the process, the special human being, the one for whom God is a kind of private preserve.-
Perhaps she should read the text of the old mass, in which the priest verbally abases himself, confessing how unworthy he is, and more than once!
-They sing “a new church into being,’ non-sexist, inclusive, centered together in the Jesus who walked the dusty roads of Galilee-
Yeah, because Jesus came to save us from sexism:
“People of Israel, I have come to save you from sexism! Now hop in my van and let’s chill!”
Geesh, someone is stuck in 1970.
I have the document printed and havent read the official text yet… but in the summary I read on Whispers, it seemed that the pre-concilliar Liturgy is prohibited during the Sacred Triduum.
Is this correct?
To me, that would nullify all of this concern about antisemitism.
Beyond that shouldnt Chitister be off offending people in New Zealand, against the wishes of that Ordinary?
I can’t help but wonder if she realizes the effects her comments will have on those of the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches, not to mention Eastern Orthodox, whose liturgies more closely resemble the Mass said during Vatican II than the one introduced after. Is there something lacking, in her mind, in the Eastern Rite churches’ approach to the sacraments? Are the Catholic and Orthodox churches that use the solemn, sacred Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom somehow backwards for their fidelity to tradition? Isn’t such an insult a blow to dialogue with the Orthodox? Do the Maronites, who include the ancient language of Christ, Aramaic, in their prayers of consecration, alienate their congregations by doing so? The Church Universal extends beyond the Latin Rite, but what specifically concerns the Latin Rite should truly concern the Church Universal, and vice versa.
Before I made Confession today (Tuesday), I was thumbing through a text of “The Mass of Vatican II,” printed by Ignatius Press (this is the “Latin Mass” that my pastor says every week), the content of which was very interesting. The form and ritual has nothing in common with the train wrecks many of us has seen in the last 30 years.
The inner ‘leaf’ says: “This booklet is entitled ‘The Mass of Vatican II’ because it contains the Novus Ordo Missae as promulgated by Pope Paul VI on Holy Thursday, April 3rd, 1969–but in the form clearly envisioned by the Fathers of the Council in the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy.”
If you have never read it, get it. Certainly worth the read, comparison, and reflection. How did we get from that to the mess Chitty-bang-bang is glorifying? And will someone PLEASE shut this woman up? So embarrassing.
And I am so tired of the “his back to the people” comment. What part of “IT’S NOT ABOUT YOU” do they not understand?
*sigh*
I’d like to slap ‘Chitty’ on the side of the head and tell her to SHUT UP! She is SO STUCK IN THE 1970s!
Why does she care so much? She is not being forced to attend a Latin Rite Mass. The Novus Ordo will be available for all those who prefer it. Why all the hubris over an option that will minister to her fellow Catholics? She needs to admit she’s a closet Protestant and get it over with.
And this in a church that has routinely addressed God as Key of David, Door of life, wind, fire, light and dove.
Last time I checked those are not gendered terms…
“They tell us now that Mass texts — including even hymns — may not include feminine references to God.”
DO “they” tell us this??? Oh, I hope so! I would be happy not to receive a blessing from “Mother God” during Mass,as I did non Mother’s Day, ever again. My stomach would greatly appreciate the prohibition.
I admit that I could only read a third of this post. Sr C gives me hives. Literally.
The laity does not “decide which church they really want.” All members of Christ’s Church should be striving for conformity to His will. Unfortunately, like most dissidents, Sister Joan Chittister is focused on her issues: feminism, social justice, ecumenism, etc. and not the Kingdom. The issues themselves become more important than growing closer to God. They should bring us to Christ, not away from Him. The Church’s primary business is salvation, not social justice.
She never stops whining, does she?
Not that I haven’t loved the poem “High Flight” all my life, because I have. My parents live about a mile from the Air Force Museum as the crow flies.
But geeeeeeez, a poem about how aviation can be a mystical encounter with God is just a tad _underwritten_ for talking about the Mass. Any Mass. Figuratively touching the face of God is _nothing_ compared to what we do.
And liturgia is “a public service performed for the benefit of the people by some public-minded rich benefactor”. Our public benefactor (liturgos) is Jesus; He does all the work of the Mass. Our only role is to accept His bounty gratefully as a member of that public.
Sister C. has a case of “modern liberalism.” That being the idea that you can do whatever you want and believe whatever you want and celebrate however you want, as long as it looks just like how I do it!
These people need to let history happen before we get too itchy about all of this.
This woman knows as much about Catholic Theology as I do about Nambibian Fertility Rites.
“chitty” ? Thats a crack up ! Note her words that the new mass does not “transend” and “does not seek to create heaven on earth” – so true
“either/or” works for your hack Hegelian, like Sr. Chitty-Bang-Bang.
It used to be that if you asked a question about the Catholic church, you got very straightforward answers. No, we did not eat meat on Friday. Yes, we had to go to church every Sunday.
Maybe I missed something. Did we stop abstaining on Fridays and stop going to mass on Sundays?
Shouldn’t Sr. Joan welcome the return of the ‘Extraordinary Form’ of the Mass? None of those pesky exclusive male pronouns in Latin, after all.
Sr. Chitty, for your own good I implore you to get out the echo chamber you inhabit where everyone thinks what you are saying is perfectly logical. Her thought patterns so resemble Chesterton’s “Maniac”.
I do wonder when women in general became so estranged as to require reconciliation within Catholicism… Should the fact that males are not females offend us, then?
Also, the gender-inclusive language with reference to God is not, to my knowledge, standard within most mainstream versions of Protestantism, so that wouldn’t make her a closet Protestant. Closet Wiccan or Neo-pagan, maybe…
The interesting thing about the question of whether the Latin Mass is more highly personal (and shouldn’t it be personal and public at the same time, really, regardless of the rite?) is that the Protestant pop that passes as sacred music really does emphasize the personal to the exclusion of all else. Some sample lyrics: “Your love for me is extravagant,” “completely consume me, Lord,” and then the ones that describe this “personal” spiritual reaction and ascribe that reaction to all who are singing… I have thankfully blocked out the lyrics for now.
“Should the fact that males are not females offend us, then?”
I think the answer lies in poisoning the fish with estrogen so that the males become females.
Interestingly, Sister C. should know that on the feast of Mary Magdalene, called the “apostle to the apostles,” the priest is required to say the mass preface for an apostle! Definitely a chauvinist plot…
I am a Catholic and a woman and yes it does sting that there’s a motu propiu for the schismatics but none for me. Yes it does sting that the word “men” (they say) encompasses women (except when it doesn’t. ‘Cause only men can be priests. And men are who Jesus came to save. See.) I don’t want much. Just a little “sorry, ladies” for 2000 make that 10,000 years of of being treated as halfway nonexistent and without feelings. Yeah. ‘Cause in English – in my world – “men” doesn’t mean women, it means “I’ve got the power AND salving your tiny feelings is not on my radar.” Exactly the sort of attitude that diverted the tithes from the Christian widows and orphans (and unsupported mothers of every stripe, who struggle in isolation to this very day), to paying big salaries for the monseigneurs and Fathers, people who assume the Lord’s titles because, you know, they’re MEN.
Question: if Sister is so much in favor of liturgical democracy, why does she sound like she’s curling her lip at the prospect of the laity choosing what type of mass they want?
Because she and the liturgical liberals know, that given the chance, tradition always wins out, no matter how hard she and her cohorts have tried to nail down the lid on the coffin of tradition these past 40 years.
The Kumbaya Mass will go the way of Air America.
Vivat vox populi!
Representing women as ridiculous, selfish, irrational whiners who would annihilate men for the right to read tea leaves in church doesn’t help women to obtain the respect they deserve. And women are certainly intelligent enough to understand that ‘man’ has more than one nuance.
I don’t know what that has to do with Sr. C’s latest lunacy, but there it is.