Rich at Ten Reasons posts this:
The clothing-otional Franciscan is coming to Xavier (‘natch):
Xavier University will host two Franciscans to speak on Franciscans International’s work at the United Nations and at the grassroots level on behalf of the world’s most vulnerable.
The talk, at 7 p.m. next Saturday (Aug. 19) at the Schiff Family Conference Center in Xavier’s Cintas Center, is open to the public. A $20 donation is suggested with proceeds benefiting Franciscans International.The speakers will be the Rev. John Quigley, co-founder and executive director of Franciscans International, and the Rev. Richard Rohr, founder of the New Jerusalem Community in Cincinnati.
‘At times, nudity at the retreats is communal. We often have camp-fires, and I know some of you have been at these where it happens, so you know what I’m talking about. Always, always, there’s some guys — I mean, is it in their hard wiring? — They’ll strip and have to leap over that fire, burning their balls . . . .I don’t know what it is. They’re the ‘real’ men, who can leap over the fire, naked.’
Well I guess there is a Franciscan precedent since St. Francis did strip off all of his clothes and returned them to his father during a courtroom appearance. Somehow I don’t think that that was not meant to be added to the rule as part of the Franciscan charism.
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Yikes, I had to read this thing twice to make sure it wasn’t a joke. Shouldn’t have been surprised though when I read Rohr’s name in there.
Cheers from Canada. Tony
unbelievably appalling
I think they all burned their balls a long time ago.
Exhibitionism is hard-wired, then? Explains a few things.
I guess they watched “Brother Sun, Sister Moon” too many times, not realizing that that scene was a dramatization and that in real life St. Francis still had underclothes on when he renounced his fortune.
I don’t know what kind of crack Mr Rohr is on, but I’m pretty sure that it’s not part of the Rule of Francis or anything Clare okayed in any way. Naked kumbaya? I shudder at the thought.
Gadzooks. Be scared, very scared.
*drops face into hands ashamedly*
Lisa
Candidate, SFO
Ack! That’s an awful mental image! Too bad their aren’t some old-school Franciscan women at these places – nuns hardwired to beat frisky boys with rulers and make them copy the Psalms during their freetime!
This brings to mind that old hymn of the 50’s, “Great Balls of Fire”.
One should admire these
Gymnastic mendicants,
Daring the flames to leap
While they’re above.
In their activities
Pyromaniacal,
Not just their hearts are
Afire with love.
Well, it couldn’t happen to nicer guys!
Judy Muehlbauer, SFO
We definitely live in a post-satirical age. All you have to do is post news items, no satire necessary!
Men getting naked.
Together.
Around a “camp” fire.
Yeah. “Real men”. Right.
This is so unutterably sad and pathetic that I must defend the rest of us Franciscans. Not all Franciscans are this loony. Yes, there are various Franciscan groups of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd order that have theological problems. Just like most of the other orders in the Church, unfortunately. Thankfully, there are also bright spots like Franciscan University, the friars and nuns at EWTN, and Fr. Groeschel’s order. But the group in this post? Just a bunch of weirdos. And to be avoided. Seriously.
…and they were naked without shame…
Gen. 2:25
Exhibitionism may “be hardwired”, but I thought we were to try to overcome the fruits of Original Sin, with God’s grace?
Sheesh.
I hope no one needs an explaination between “naked without shame” and “shamelessness.”
Somehow, I think one will have a difficult time arguing this incident falls in the former category, and we all know it’s in the latter and beyond.
Gross. Period
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