Nice to see actual rose-colored vestments, of course that’s what we’d expect from the Pope himself. The priest at the church I attended this morning (not my parish) wore a stark, unadorned, Pepto-Bismol colored chausible. I’d be surprised if my own parish priest even wore something remotely resembling rose; I can’t seem to recall him doing so at Gaudete Sunday.
-ACEGC
Fr. DennisMarch 26, 2006 - 6:46 pm
That is a beautiful rose colored vestment. We “found” one in the basement that our liberal nun wanted to throw away. I saved it but it needs some fixing up…another thing that the Post-Vatican II generation threw out that the real Vatican II generation of priests will restore.
JohnMarch 26, 2006 - 7:01 pm
Maybe I am color blind but it looks pink to me
I was watching mass on Telecare this afternoon and the priest had exactly the same pink color on
As far as what a pre vatican II vestment should look like, I attended mass with my family and inlaws at a traditional “prevatican II chapel” and the priest wore nothing at all that looked like this or was pink to my eyes
He was wearing a beautiful vestment with complete traditional garb, with actual kneeling taking place, genuflecting each and every time people passed the aisle where the tabernacle was held, solemnity, quiet, filled pews, etc etc. It can make one want to go all of the time
MaureenMarch 26, 2006 - 8:57 pm
Liturgical colors and English colors are not necessarily the same. There isn’t any word for pink in Latin. Therefore it’s rose.
Okay…I have confirmation…my parish priest did not wear rose this morning. Bummer. I didn’t expect it, seeing as this is the guy that uses earthenware and ceramic sacred vessels during Lent and Advent because they’re penitential seasons. Someone should tell him that Jesus isn’t the one that’s supposed to do the penance, because He didn’t do anything.
I wore purple. Sorry. Our “rose” chasuble weighs three times what the purple chasuble weighs and as it is I’m just barely making through the Mass w/o passing out from a heat stroke.
flabellumMarch 27, 2006 - 8:04 am
Roses come in white, cream, yellow and every shade from pale pink to deep carmine red, so what precisely is “rose”?
mtMarch 27, 2006 - 9:19 am
Absolutely true, Flabellum! I used to have a lot of catalogues for heirloom and modern roses, and there are literally hundreds of colors of roses simply in the what we would think of as the “rosy” range (not including the yellows, deep reds etc).
There is NO COLOR SWATCH that a priest must use to determine if his vestments are rose, and I have seen pictures of vestments ranging from light pink to a kind of salmon color, with everything in between.
When I entered the monastery in 1981, we still had a “rose” vestment that someone had given us years before. It was vehemently “neglig�e pink”. We “charitably” sent it to the missions.
I would recommend something more along the lines of “old rose” “dusty rose” or magenta to any of you who might be making vestments.
While we’re light (read: nonexistant) on rose vestments at my parish we did indeed break out the rose candles for alongside the altar. The color range of pink (the common color of roses that aren’t red or white but somewhere in between to us non-color-coordinating males) is less important than actually observing the tradition in a proper form.
You know what I’d love to see??? Rather than another Haugen song (despite our choir choosing usually suitable ones from among his and Haas’ many offerings, they do have some decent and even a few good songs) is an actual entrance chant in Latin that featured the words so that the priest could re-catechize the congregation with a brief opening summary or a note in the bulletin or something.
Daniel MullerMarch 27, 2006 - 11:01 am
“Rose” = “dusty rose” or mauve. Not pink.
Our “rose” chasuble weighs three times what the purple chasuble weighs
Those heavy Dutch vestments should be tossed anyhow, or given to a suitable sect. The stole should not be worn outside the chasuble.
AndrewMarch 27, 2006 - 11:38 am
We had rose vestments at our church. The priest made a point of saying that they are not pink, but rose. The visiting bishop then said that whatever you want to call it, it matches his hot pink hat quite nicely. It got a very big laugh.
On the bottom picture, it could almost pass for B16 thumbing his nose at Cdl. Mahoney. Jeff, all you’d have to do is move the thumb. hehehehehe
BMP
SharonMarch 27, 2006 - 9:56 pm
I’m just barely making through the Mass w/o passing out from a heat stroke.
Our priests have a small fan behind the altar (solid stone) which mitigates the heat a little.
EamonnMarch 28, 2006 - 9:29 am
Remember that Rose is optional not obligatory for Laetare Sunday, Fr Philip, so if it’s too much, you don’t have to! At our diocesan indult Mass we had a celebrant in rose but deacon and subdeacon in violet; a full Solemn High set in Rose would be just too difficult (and expensive) to get.
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Nice to see actual rose-colored vestments, of course that’s what we’d expect from the Pope himself. The priest at the church I attended this morning (not my parish) wore a stark, unadorned, Pepto-Bismol colored chausible. I’d be surprised if my own parish priest even wore something remotely resembling rose; I can’t seem to recall him doing so at Gaudete Sunday.
-ACEGC
That is a beautiful rose colored vestment. We “found” one in the basement that our liberal nun wanted to throw away. I saved it but it needs some fixing up…another thing that the Post-Vatican II generation threw out that the real Vatican II generation of priests will restore.
Maybe I am color blind but it looks pink to me
I was watching mass on Telecare this afternoon and the priest had exactly the same pink color on
As far as what a pre vatican II vestment should look like, I attended mass with my family and inlaws at a traditional “prevatican II chapel” and the priest wore nothing at all that looked like this or was pink to my eyes
He was wearing a beautiful vestment with complete traditional garb, with actual kneeling taking place, genuflecting each and every time people passed the aisle where the tabernacle was held, solemnity, quiet, filled pews, etc etc. It can make one want to go all of the time
Liturgical colors and English colors are not necessarily the same. There isn’t any word for pink in Latin. Therefore it’s rose.
Okay…I have confirmation…my parish priest did not wear rose this morning. Bummer. I didn’t expect it, seeing as this is the guy that uses earthenware and ceramic sacred vessels during Lent and Advent because they’re penitential seasons. Someone should tell him that Jesus isn’t the one that’s supposed to do the penance, because He didn’t do anything.
-ACEGC
I wore purple. Sorry. Our “rose” chasuble weighs three times what the purple chasuble weighs and as it is I’m just barely making through the Mass w/o passing out from a heat stroke.
Roses come in white, cream, yellow and every shade from pale pink to deep carmine red, so what precisely is “rose”?
Absolutely true, Flabellum! I used to have a lot of catalogues for heirloom and modern roses, and there are literally hundreds of colors of roses simply in the what we would think of as the “rosy” range (not including the yellows, deep reds etc).
There is NO COLOR SWATCH that a priest must use to determine if his vestments are rose, and I have seen pictures of vestments ranging from light pink to a kind of salmon color, with everything in between.
When I entered the monastery in 1981, we still had a “rose” vestment that someone had given us years before. It was vehemently “neglig�e pink”. We “charitably” sent it to the missions.
I would recommend something more along the lines of “old rose” “dusty rose” or magenta to any of you who might be making vestments.
Speaking of “swatches”, here’s an idea.
http://www.holyroodguild.com/product.php?productid=16329&cat=0&page=1
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It’s not pink! It’s lightish red!
While we’re light (read: nonexistant) on rose vestments at my parish we did indeed break out the rose candles for alongside the altar. The color range of pink (the common color of roses that aren’t red or white but somewhere in between to us non-color-coordinating males) is less important than actually observing the tradition in a proper form.
You know what I’d love to see??? Rather than another Haugen song (despite our choir choosing usually suitable ones from among his and Haas’ many offerings, they do have some decent and even a few good songs) is an actual entrance chant in Latin that featured the words so that the priest could re-catechize the congregation with a brief opening summary or a note in the bulletin or something.
“Rose” = “dusty rose” or mauve. Not pink.
Our “rose” chasuble weighs three times what the purple chasuble weighs
Those heavy Dutch vestments should be tossed anyhow, or given to a suitable sect. The stole should not be worn outside the chasuble.
We had rose vestments at our church. The priest made a point of saying that they are not pink, but rose. The visiting bishop then said that whatever you want to call it, it matches his hot pink hat quite nicely. It got a very big laugh.
Big Tom, how’s this? http://www.canticanova.com/catalog/products/l_introits.htm
On the bottom picture, it could almost pass for B16 thumbing his nose at Cdl. Mahoney. Jeff, all you’d have to do is move the thumb. hehehehehe
BMP
I’m just barely making through the Mass w/o passing out from a heat stroke.
Our priests have a small fan behind the altar (solid stone) which mitigates the heat a little.
Remember that Rose is optional not obligatory for Laetare Sunday, Fr Philip, so if it’s too much, you don’t have to! At our diocesan indult Mass we had a celebrant in rose but deacon and subdeacon in violet; a full Solemn High set in Rose would be just too difficult (and expensive) to get.
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