Why are so many Catholic periodical that in some way identify themselves with our country are in fact dissident rags. For example America magazine, St. Anthony Messenger Press (americancatholic.org), and U.S. Catholic. It must be the idea of a democracy and radical individualism that strongly informs there vision of H20 Catholicism.
Alica said she was too tired to fisk this article so I will lend a hand.
Yet as much as John Paul II’s theology offers a real alternative to our sex-obsessed society, I have a mixed response to it. As a lifelong Catholic, a feminist, a wife, and a theologian, I find myself in agreement with some dimensions of it but with concerns about and even strong disagreements with others.
Well I have to admit that the article made me tired just reading it. I am only surprised that she didn’t list feminist before Catholic because that is how the article reads.
For John Paul II, God is always the bridegroom, never the bride; God is the one who acts, who invites. We, the brides, are the ones who respond. While there is a profound truth to this metaphor in that God is the one who issues us the invitation, I am uncomfortable with the gendered way that this comes across and its implications for real-life marriages, and indeed for society at large.
She never does explain why she is uncomfortable with this "gendered way", but the implication is of course that after understanding Pope John Paul’s II theology of the Body that we will force our wives to be submissive. Yeah I remember that surge of wife-beatings after Christopher West’s book came out.
The complementarity of the sexes. As John Paul II saw it, the differences between men’s and women’s bodies are not accidental, nor are they different merely for the sake of reproduction. Our bodies themselves reveal God’s intention for us. So to be male or to be female is, first, to be oriented to the other.
Second, maleness and femaleness constitute “essential” dimensions of the person that are not exchangeable. To be a woman is to be fundamentally “receptive” and open to the other. Thus John Paul II was quite critical of forms of feminism that, in his view, seek to make women “like men.”
There is what he called a “special genius” in womanhood that is oriented toward relationship and nurturing. And, because of the essential differences between men and women, only men can be ordained priests, as they represent Christ the bridegroom in relation to his bride, the church.
And of course after this we get the theology of Marlo Thomas Free to Be.. You & Me. Just hand Johnny a Barbie doll and he will grow up sensitive.
My response: No one could deny the obvious differences between the sexes. There are fundamental differences that exist at the genetic level and other differences that seem to accompany being male or female within a given society. Nature and culture are intertwined in complex ways, and a definitive answer as to which differences are “natural” and which are “cultural” is impossible.
Feminists have suggested that not all our differences are “given” to us. Some are learned. Opening up new opportunities to women, and to men as well, has profoundly changed the way we live our lives.
While many women find great fulfillment in bearing and raising children, some do not and instead find happiness in a single life or in a marriage without children. Some women find that they are better mothers or wives by combining their professional lives with their family lives. This shift in our understanding of gender has, by the same token, allowed men to develop stronger relationships with their children, as they are more free to take on nurturing roles.
I also noticed the packs of nurturing men. They go from busted marriage to busted marriage nurturing their children of different mothers. And just how does the fulfillment of childless marriages happen, well why of course the glory of contraception. Pill let us sing they praise. Estrogen in the highest.
My response: It is well-known that the overwhelming majority of U.S. Catholics do in fact use artificial contraception. But mere numbers cannot constitute a genuine theological response. This may mean that the overwhelming majority of Catholics are morally mistaken. Yet I think it is worth asking whether there is any wisdom in their experience.
Of course why even bring up the fact if you are going to point out that mere numbers can’t change theology? Well of course it must be the experience. We are all sinners so the wisdom of the experience of sin must somehow make us not sinners.
Does using contraceptives mean that the couple holds back an essential part of themselves from the other? I remember a conversation I had a few years ago with a friend who is the mother of three children. She and her husband had joyfully welcomed each child, and she could attest to the deep wonder and mystery that accompanied their conception. They had found Natural Family Planning very helpful in the process.
Yet she later found herself at a point in her life where, she told me, the thought of another child elicited panic. Neither she nor her husband felt that they could take on another child, and this fear was having a negative effect on their relationship with each other and with their children. After much thought and prayer, they decided that contraception was the best solution for them. Freedom from fear of conception has had a very positive impact on their relationship and their family life as a whole. I do not think that such an outcome would be associated with significant periods of abstinence.
The problem with these types of solutions is that they don’t fix the problem. Fear of the possibility of children is a sign of a psychological problem that contraception doesn’t cure. Just as the cure for unwanted children is wanting them, the fear of contraception must be addressed for the moral sickness that it is. Though I am rather skeptical of the story she relates, it is just too pat an illustration. Deep wonder and mystery changing to fear of conception.
This is the part where she tries to show how fair she is as a Catholic theologian.
Surely there are countless examples of couples using contraception purely as an avenue to their individual sexual pleasure, of women feeling less able to decline sex, of both men and women feeling pressured by the culture to have sex, of sex being reduced to “hooking up.” Such practices call for a strong response from people of faith.
…Beyond that, is abstaining regularly from shared sexual delight really what God wants of couples? Many couples have answered that question with a strong “No.”
Beyond that, is people regularly abstaining from sin what God wants of people? Many people have answered that question with a strong “No.”
The complex issues involved in a response to the church’s position on artificial contraception are too complex to treat in depth here, but I would simply note that there are thoughtful theological arguments that take a different position, that note the need for couples to follow their consciences on how best to plan their families, that suggest that the church’s longstanding opposition to contraception relies on an understanding of sexuality that looks to the experiences of men more than of women.
Then we get the boilerplate "complex issues", "thoughtful theological arguments", and "follow their conscience." If only Onan had told God that he was following his conscience and that this was a complex issue. Now I am sure you knew the next part was coming.
Indeed, in a church whose leaders are committed to complete abstinence from sexual union, a theology of the body that relies on abstinence as a central dimension of married sexuality is not surprising. This is not to say that celibates cannot understand sexuality, but rather that the lived experience of sexual activity also has a wisdom greatly worth hearing.
Celibate men dictating things to the rest of us. Run for the hills. Again with the lived experience generating wisdom. Didn’t we already get that one earlier?
I suggest that Catholics and others ought to listen respectfully to John Paul II’s message about the body and sexuality!
And then find reasons to ignore it like I have.
As someone whose vocation for 25 years has been to encourage the voices of young women and men, I would suggest that the Bible and the Christian tradition have other stories to tell as well: of the Canaanite woman who challenged Jesus’ reluctance to heal her daughter, of the early Christian leaders Phoebe and Prisca who were some of the first Christian missionaries, of the 12th-century abbess Hildegard of Bingen who was known for her preaching and even for admonishing the clergy for their failures—these women are hardly examples of pure receptivity.
This is the problem with critiques like this is that they confuse receptivity with passivity. To mischaracterized our late Pope’s theology in this way is just silly.
However, apart from this requirement, it is necessary to strive convincingly to ensure that the widest possible space is open to women in all areas of culture, economics, politics and ecclesial life itself, so that all human society is increasingly enriched by the gifts proper to masculinity and femininity.
2. In fact, woman has a genius all her own, which is vitally essential to both society and the Church. It is certainly not a question of comparing woman to man, since it is obvious that they have fundamental dimensions and values in common. However, in man and in woman these acquire different strengths, interests and emphases and it is this very diversity which becomes a source of enrichment. — Pope John Paul II
But it is no surprise that this theologian just does not get it. For example here is something else she has written.
Finally, the neuralgic issue of abortion. Yes, the church has advocated for the protection of these powerless and innocent ones. But when the church proclaims a theology of womanhood that identifies all women as mothers, whether physical or spiritual, that allows for moral ambiguity in decision-making that leads to death, as does the church’s teaching on just war, but does not see any ambiguity at all in women’s decisions over their future — since there is no ambiguity: all women are mothers!
I am not quite sure what the heck that means – but I am sure it translates to abortions are morally acceptable.
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Great post!
Some peeps just NEVER get it. They want the church to Conform to thier understanding of human sexuality rather than the Church’s teaching on sexuality.
Sad really…
I’m not so sure this author is advocating abortion in her last paragraph as much as she is disavowing JPII’s invitation for women to tap into our maternal gift. This gift goes beyond our physical capacity to bear children. I believe he was answering our culture’s tendency to sully motherhood and elevate it out of the dreck it was thrown into from the sexual revolution onward.
I see this author as trying to keep one foot in the dreck, while giving a nod to the obvious rebirth of an authentic femininity. Waves of women are rejecting the “I can bring home the bacon and fry it up in a pan/I am woman hear me roar” philosophy drummed into us over the past decades.
G.K. Chesterton predicted the women’s movement and its result. JPII gave us the counterclaim.
ARGH! As a woman I’m sick of being “liberated” by women (and men) who don’t or won’t understand what the Church teaches and why.
Funnily enough, I would have thought that celibate people would have the ideal experience of being chaste due to their vocations. Besides, it’s not the sex that is hard to abstain from, but the emotional closeness of a human marriage – at least so I’ve been told, I’m married.
And I’ve been there in that “oh no I just couldn’t manage another baby” and God was there for me, He helped and supported me and so did JPII’s ToB and Christopher West. Just shrugging your shoulders and redefining sin is not a solution.
Why “America”?
‘Cause it’s not “Rome,” that’s why.
I don’t get it. When some neopagan says all women are just like the Great Mother, feminists are for it.
But if the Pope dares to point to the Mother of God as a role model, they’re against it.
Maybe the difference is that Mary, unlike your typical mother goddess, never had anything to do with letting her kids be eaten by her husband, castrating men, taking sunlight away from the world, persecuting heroes, seducing heroes, etc., etc.
Wow, I’m glad you fisked this, since I couldn’t even finish reading it. Two points to add:
1) She’s never read Hildegard. I’ve read very little, but that included something on the nature of femaleness and reception in relation to God. It’s been years, but it had something to do with taking God in, which women are designed for more than men.
2) Did our celebrated American authoress not pick up on the central point of the marriage metaphor, or what? Hello, in relation to God-as-groom, WE’RE ALL FEMALE. This isn’t “gendering;” it’s making us all the same gender in relation to one who is “other” than we are. This, properly applied, would actually teach men about the relationships in marriage, as opposed to just encouraging them to oppress their wives.
Sheesh.
Astounding. How could anyone make any sense of any of that?
Reminds me of the old joke (among us under-achievers) about the various degrees in higher education. BS – well you know what that is. MS – more sh**. And Ph.D. piled higher and deeper.
She accomplished the feat of rendering rank opinion and wild speculation into something barely incomprehensible.
Give her tenure!
Yeah… all three of those magizines are all over the magazine rack in the campus center at my “Catholic” university.
Sad huh?
Those three, then a few Sports Illustrated and a women’s health floating around there.
RE: “I’m not so sure this author is advocating abortion in her last paragraph…”
I must beg to differ! The author writes about a Church “…that allows for moral ambiguity in decision-making that leads to death, as does the church�s teaching on just war; but does not see any ambiguity at all in women�s decisions over their future….”
This looks very much like suggesting that it is hypocritical for the Church to recognize ‘just war’ but not ‘just abortion.’ As if the mother were merely defending herself from a malicious agressor (and don’t even start with the small percentage of rape/incest abortions, until you can demonstrate that abortion does anything at all to defend the woman against the rapist himself.) As I read it, the author is trying to equate the two, and either advocating for a ‘just abortion’ policy, or against ‘just war.’ And, the first sentence did establish the topic of abortion…
It appears from the 09/15/05 New York Times report that the Vatican has initiated The Inquisition of the 21st century. I am ashamed to have been baptized a Catholic and, in good conscience, must renounce all association with the Holy See. The Pope has declared a “holy war” and the German Shepard’s action legitimizes, and will lead to, the increased persecution and slaughter of gay and lesbian people. The Church is purging its sins of negligence by crucifying a scapegoat, a familiar story to every Christian and Jew. Has a Nazi risen to the Throne of St. Peter? History shows us how the tragedy will end – charred pink triangles scattered amongst the ashes. Others will surely perish too. All who do not speak out against inhumanity share the shame and the sin. Will no one stand up against this horror?
I am in a profound state of fear and despair.
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Good fisk. What is daunting is how blind she is to the chaos of the sexual revolution. At least I give her credit for one insight: JPII’s teaching is a most definite threat to the contraceptive mentality and “reproductive rights.”
The casual, unthinking dismissal of abstinence is also galling. When self-control is not an option, you are part of the problem.
Mark H has nailed it: she is very much advocating, sotto voce, a “just abortion” doctrine. Ironically, in order to do it, she has to avoid any direct reference to JPII, who described all war as a defeat for humanity, in that innocent life is invariably destroyed.
Thanks, Dale- I read Joe’s whole post and kept waiting to see the punchline.
Right on, as awlays, Jeff.
I’m always willing to put up with a lack of critical thought on my own part. But for some reason, the same lack in others irritates me to no end.
Case in point, the tired charicature of moral theology being nothing but the whims of old, crotchety sexually frustrated straight guys, rather than natural law.
It seems so obvious to this sinner–if it weren’t for natural law and divine revelation, what sexually frustrated straight man would ever arbitrarily insist on celibacy? What straight man would ever on his own whim object to promiscuous sexual pleasure without having to worry about siring unwanted children? What straight guy would ever in a billion years–and this is not to be crude, because fellas, you know it’s true–object to two women “hooking up” together?
The moral laws of the Church are not the arbitrary whims of power-hungry straight guys–because the moral laws of the Church are in diametric opposition to what the unchecked whims of us awful straight guys would ever be!
I also thought “Joe” was a satire of some sort.
“Yet I think it is worth asking whether there is any wisdom in [American Catholic contraceptors’] experience.”
Hey, just ask my parents. They’re past their childbearing years, very open about it. Got married in 1967, priest told them it would be OK to use Pill “because an encyclical is coming out next year that will approve it . . . .” That was “Humanae Vitae”, of course. Parents had 2 kids but now really regret not having more and following their own American “conscience” instead of the Church’s law. So, that’s the wisdom in their experience . . .
P.S. I should add that neither my sister nor I contracept . . . we’re both NFP-educated but, if anything, tend to be (for our own families) “as many as God sends” – my sister’s had 4 in 7 years, I’ve been married a year and no pregnancy yet, but we’re still hopeful. God’s in charge, marriage is our vocation, there’s always adoption, etc.
Thanks Dale, that was the same rant I saw on anthor blog I commented on.
I must not be important enough, he hasn’t hit mine yet.
I don’t buy this story about the NFP couple. “This fear” probably wasn’t of another child, but fear of God asking for what we weren’t ready to give up. I know that fear, but hiding under the blanket doesn’t really make the monsters go away.
Thank you, Mark H. and Dale Price for the clarity regarding the author’s position on abortion. While the author claims the Church is unclear, for me, I found the AUTHOR’S statements unclear.
We are all sinners so the wisdom of the experience of sin must somehow make us not sinners.
Great line! I’m falling off the chair…its postmodernism in a nutshell…
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Note that critics say that she will lead you away from God and proponents don’t mention a peep about God.
Thanks Jeff for the good fisk. I get so very tired of this. Well, as I said, I am just plain tired – something about staying up all night with moms in labor….
I am also sick to my soul about the culture of death. Just recently I heard an OB who I generally love and respect argue that a 26 y/o woman who had just given birth to her first child be granted her (the patient’s) expressed wish to be permanently sterilized. This woman does indeed have grave reasons to avoid pregnancy. But I just can’t get on board with permanently mutilating her sexual organs for that purpose! What made it worse to me is that the doc advocating for the patient to be sterilized happens to be a regular communicant in a local parish, a CCD teacher, and an Extraordinary minister of Communion! This doctor sees no conflict between professional life and religious faith – kind of a John Kerry or JFK approach…. and I can only imagine the kind of catechesis that is being provided by this doc.
St. Gianna, ora pro nobis.
How dare you criticize her! She’s a professor at a Catholic University, which means that she spends every waking moment defending the Magisterium of the Church and the Mandatum that she gladly signed. (How do I know she signed it? She’s at a Jesuit university and everyone knows that the Jesuits hate heresy.) Besides, everyone knows that theology PhD’s are all humble and pious servants of the Church. Yet you still criticize her. I’m shocked. You’d probably also find fault with that humble servant Father McBrien who suffers so much being exposed to the television cameras and lights. Those things can cause cancer, you know. That’s a lot worse than the measly bullet that so humanely euthanised Miguel Pro. Yet you would no doubt gleefully mock and criticize Fr. McBrien. For shame!
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