You just know an article that bandies about the word theocracy in the title is going to be a real treat.
Just as the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, so, too, does it recognize the right to be free from religion. The Radical Right wants prayer in public schools, but only Christian prayers. These extremists would scream bloody murder if Muslim schoolchildren were to bow down and praise Allah or Jewish children were to lead their classrooms in Hebrew prayers.
Free from religion is usually a code word meaning to be free from others with religious views. That you can be religious all you want just don’t express it publicly or let your life be informed by it. And of course she offers no evidence or even antidotes for how the "radical right" is doing this. The movement of asking for prayer in school has been concentrated on allowing kids to be able to do silent prayers or a moment of reflection. Not to lead the class in a specific prayer. I would guess off hand that a moment of reflection would be easily amendable to Christians, Muslims, and Jewish children. Of course the bumper sticker joke is that as long as there are tests in schools there will also be prayers in school.
We are a nation of people who adhere to many faiths, including Christianity. But we are not a Christian nation. But as far as the Radical Right is concerned, there is only one true religion, orthodox Christianity.
Aren’t the Jewish so-called neocons part of the religious right? Besides a recent study said that 85 percent of americans identified themselves as Christians you might think that would would somewhat support the label even if those same 85 percent don’t exactly always live a Christian life. Even those on the religious left believe there is only one true religion – the one that they hold. Though I don’t quite understand the snipe at "orthodox Christianity" since orthodox means right doctrine.
On the Radical Right’s enemy list is Cindy Sheehan, a mother who lost her son in the war in Iraq. She and her supporters have camped out near the president’s ranch in Crawford, Texas. But the radicals can’t see her pain or get past her disagreement with their spiritual leader, George W. Bush. In another time, they might have burned Sheehan as a witch just to shut her up.
This paragraph occurs only a few lines after she says the "Radical Right" engages in "character assassination." You can be sure that whenever you see this phrase you will then see some good examples of character assassination committed by the same author.
The Radical Right pits mother against mother. It hails Terri Schiavo’s mother, a Catholic, while condemning Sheehan, also Catholic. The disabled and deceased Schiavo became a symbol for the national pro-life movement that had open support from Florida’s Republican governor.
Now which way is it. The left attacked supporters of Terri for publicizing a mother’ grief and at the same time say that this one mother’s grief should be very public. Exactly who are the members of the religious right condemning Cindy Sheehan? Sure people have criticized the media circus that eschewed or some of the anti-Semetic and silly statements that she has made, but who exactly has condemned her or her right to protest the war? Every commentator I have read or heard makes the distinctions between condemning Cindy Sheehan and some of the ideas she has expressed. I do remember thinking it was pretty funny when Maureen Dowd said that Mrs. Sheehan had "absolute moral authority." Who knew that Maureen Down believed in absolutes, much less in connection with morals. It does make me wonder if two mother’s who have both lost a son in Iraq, but have opposing views on the war, which one’s moral authority is more absolute? There was a time when the words Cindy and Crawford used together brought to mind a super model and not an exploitive media event taking advantage of a grieving mother.
Sheehan’s son went from altar boy to casualty of war and then a symbol for a national anti-war movement. Sheehan uses the same symbolic crosses for her cause as have been used for years throughout the country to represent unborn children lost to abortions. Can you recall anyone driving a truck over them, as happened with the Crawford crosses?
The idiot that did that did that was not defended by anybody I am aware of. Though since she asks if I can remember similar events, why yes I can and you would think a reporter with Lexus-Nexus access would be able to determine that memorials to the unborn have been desecrated many times across the country. In fact earlier this year not just one idiot with a pickup truck but multiple vandals damaged 3,000 to 4,000 crosses at LSU. This same thing happened in my own diocese where crosses dedicated to the unborn were destroyed at the site of the first Mass in America. Pro-life displays have been ripped-up or destroyed time and time again all over the country. So yes I can recall the same and worse happening.
The Radical Right won’t rest until they’ve converted – or subverted – their enemies. As a Catholic mother with children in religious schools, I find this movement reprehensible and suspicious. Do you really believe that the sudden interest Republicans have in attracting black and Hispanic voters has to do with anything other than religion?
I should have know that the writer would turn out to be a Catholic, but yes I do believe that the motives are other than just religion. Just from a purely pragmatic motive it is done to receive a larger number of votes. The fact that some blacks and Hispanics are feeling alienated by the Democratic Party just makes it easier for the Republicans to attract them. The study from the Pew Research Center released today said that only 29% of respondents view the Democrats as religion-friendly, down from 40% just a year ago.
So what to do? Allow them to subvert the Constitution and continue their bloodless coup without a challenge? No, we must urge them to form their own party. Think of Greens and you think of the environment. The zealots should call themselves Theocrat’s. They should leave the Democrats and Republicans to fend for themselves. Such defections have happened before. (See Whigs).
If a Theocrat like televangelist Pat Robertson calls for assassinating a foreign dignitary, Republicans wouldn’t have to explain. Let Theocrats adopt as their mascot a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
If the Theocratic Party succeeds, it will be through votes of the people, through democracy, not deception. Heaven knows, they’ve deceived us enough already.
I really remember the rousing cry of defense for Pat Robertson in the conservative blogosphere, well actually he was pretty much slammed just like almost every time he opens his mouth and says something stupid (though maybe that is repetitive). Though Pat Robertson is not the right’s Michael Moore. He is more like the nutty grandfather that might be part of your family, you just kind of put up with him. Michael Moore gets to sit next to President Carter at the Democratic Convention and his nutty conspiracy theories are almost never condemned by the left. Of course when Clinton advisor George Stephanopoulos publicly argued for the assassination of Saddam Hussien in 1997 I also don’t remember the liberal media outcry. that
Anyway the whole idea of the religious right wanting to establish a theocracy is just so much conspiracy hot air more appropriate to wearers of hats made by Alcoa. What do you get when you put 20 Christians in a room? Disagreement. One of the last things Christians would ever want is a theocracy. We can’t even agree if it is permissible to baptize babies yet we are all going to get together to impose a theocracy? We are just doing all we can to keep from having and atheocracy imposed where only secular-humanism is endorsed by the state and religious faith must be kept private.
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Greetings Jeff!
For once, I’m not going to argue with the substance of anything you wrote, and my comments are slightly off topic, though I’ll try to tie it back in by the end.
I wanted to point out that you provided the response to one of your own critiques.
Regarding attitudes of the religious left, you stated, “…I don’t quite understand the snipe at ‘orthodox Christinity’ since orthodox means right doctrine”
Then, in your concluding paragraph, “What do you get when you put 20 Christians in a room? Disagreement.”
Your statement in the conclusion is correct – an empirically demonstrable fact.
It is because it is true that the religious believers, even within a single denomination, will have disagreements, that it can be counterproductive to a sincere dialogue to insistently define your own view as “orthodox” and the other view as “unorthodox”.
This is especially the case when two Roman Catholics disagree over a matter that is not solemnly defined with the charism of infallibility.
If you put 20 randomnly selected practicing adult Catholics in a room, you’re likely to have agreement over solemnly defined doctrines such as the creeds, marian dogmas, the sacraments, and even the infallibility of the Pope.
But you’re likely to have some intense disagreement over issues like the death penalty, the war in Iraq, contraception, married priests, and so forth.
I am intentionally side-stepping the issue of women’s ordination, because there are two layers to that question: is the teaching truly definitive, and then, if not, do you support or oppose women’s ordination.
When one side starts defining itself as “orthodox” it becomes problematic, because the opposite is heterodoxy, and it is not heterodox to disagree with the Pope on the death penalty or married priests or even contraception. The Church allows a certain pluralism, and I believe that it is “orthodox” to say that there is such a thing as legitimate dissent.
What I find is that those Catholics who define themselves as “orthodox” often do disagree with the Pope on such things as whether a unilateral preventative war can ever be a just war (2,000 years of tradition and the Pope says it can’t), or whether the death penalty is really immoral in this day and age.
So, there isn’t even a consistent definition of what is meant by the word, “orthodox”.
The liberal dissenter on contraception is not orthodox, but the conservative dissenter on the death penalty is orthodox. How is that?
Of course, you are “right” to believe that every single human person alive thinks his or her own opinions are correct and right, and in that sense, there is nothing wrong with using a term like “orthodox” in the manner of “I think my opinion on this issue is orthodox”.
But the way the term is used is more “I am orthodox in all my beliefs, and therefore, if you disagree with me on anything, you are heterodox and should be denied communion or excommunicated.”
And it is that exclusionary attitude held by the so-called “orthodox” that is willing to drive people out of the Church over non-infallible teaching that drives Catholic liberals the most batty.
Tying all of this back to your post, the same sort of attitude seems to be prevalent among Christian Bush supporters, no matter the denomination. The notion is that if you do not support Bush, you are not an orthodox Christian.
That’s frankly hogwash.
Many of Bush’s policies are directly contrary to scripture and/or tradition and natural law. If you want to support Bush, fine. But please don’t claim the Gospel demands support for G.W.
And there are Bush policies that have no basis in the Gospel message that scare the crap out of those who believe in democracy and pluralism. The Patriot Act, detaining people without charges, aruments rationalizing torture, wars of aggression and so forth frighten not only life-long liberals, but even some life-long conservative Republicans.
Are there some issues like a moment of silence in public schools that many liberals get upset about and maybe shouldn’t?
I could agree with some of what you say on these types of things. Like I say, there is little of substance in your actual post that I actually disagree with enough to make comment.
But there is sort of an underlying tone that conservative Catholic Repulicans are good and orthodox, and any Catholics who do not like Bush are bad and heterodox.
And it is that underlying tone that I take issue with, and believe could be “unorthodox” if I am correctly sensing a position you might hold.
Peace!
I’m betting it’s approaching 104 degF, judging from the evidence.
The liberal dissenter on contraception is not orthodox, but the conservative dissenter on the death penalty is orthodox. How is that?
Contraception is intrinsically wrong.
The death penalty is not intrinsically wrong.
Thus the questions of “how?” “when?” “whom?” regarding contraception are 100% problematic. This is not the case with the death penalty beacause it is not intrinsically wrong. If it were the case, there would be a universal prohibition on the death penalty. No such prohibition exists.
That said, I think that tossing aside the church’s wisdom on either issue is dangerous and dumb.
Sheehan’s son went from altar boy to casualty of war and then a symbol for a national anti-war movement.
It’s interesting that this author claims this man became a symbol for the anti-war movement. A brave and selfless man who signs up for military service, and after his hitch is up, during the continuation of hostilities in Iraq signs up for another hitch. He even volunteered for the mission that killed him, paying the ultimate price and earning his country’s undying gratitude.
How in the world is a dutiful man like this, a poster child for the anti-war movement? The mind boggles.
The liberal dissenter on contraception is not orthodox, but the conservative dissenter on the death penalty is orthodox. How is that?
Because as it’s been stated many times before, contraceptions is always objectively disordered, while the death penalty, while abhorrent and evil in most cases is not always evil. The death penalty has been stated as necessary for a society when it can’t protect itself any other way.
Tony,
yes, it is true that the Church does not teach that the death penalty is always wrong.
It is also true that she teaches that if there is a bloodless means of restraining the violent offender for the protection of society (such as a prison system), then it is immoral to use the death penalty.
And in case there was any confusion as to whether that means that it is virtually always wrong, the Church explicitly says that moral justification for the death penalty in the modern world is “practically non-existent”.
So, please tell me again how a person who supports the use of the death penalty in the United States is not in dissent, while the person who thinks there may be some instance where contraception is licit are both not in the same degree of dissent?
Peace!
the Church explicitly says that moral justification for the death penalty in the modern world is “practically non-existent”.
That is an inherently prudential judgement. I happen to think that it’s correct, but one could argue otherwise without sticking one’s fingers and one’s ears and humming real loud (e.g., one could say that the murders in prison, like John Geoghan’s, are impossible to stop without executing the murderers and therefore the Church’s prudential judgement regarding the need for the death penalty in the West is wrong).
I think that we could stop them if we really tried, but we probably won’t anytime soon since protecting prisoners isn’t exactly a big priority. Knowing very little about the prison system, I could be wrong though.